20g?

Fuzz16

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i know it would be ok to tur a 20g into saltwater, but i wanted to know some things i could place in it. i was wanting something simple like a couple false percula clowns, i heart them. and a cleanup crew and maybe a goby and couple other small fish. or would that be pushingt he bioload?

my dads friend would be giving me corals for free and LR just to get me started out. and would help me with setup and teaching me about how to take cre of it.
i just am not sure i want to take on the responsibilty though. discus and saltwater would be a lot of work, i can only imagine.
 

Fuzz16

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i was thinking 2 false percula clowns, a goby, and a cleanup crew
plus corals and an ananome, which i am clueless about any of them. but ill be getting frags to start them off.
 

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Desktop Aquarium Kits: AquaPod 12 & 24 Gallon Nano Aquarium Systems
well i beleive this is what ill get. the $169.99 one
one false perc and one coral beauty
a neon goby
a cleanup crew
a brittle star and sea hare
eventually i might add a sebae, i heart them
a flame scallob
about 30lbs of LR
and whatever non-aggressive frags i receive from my dads friend. he is also going to give me some sand and water from his tank, which has been up for awhile, to help get me started.

what do you all think? good deal or not?
 

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Percs are fine, not the coral beauty, if you want lots of work in water changes add the goby too, just to give you an idea, I have 2 true percs and a goby in my 40 gallon, and that is it. Clean up crew is fine, pass on the sea hare and no to the seabae with that lighting setup. A definite no on the flame scallop, they have extremely specific dietary requirements which are difficult to produce in closed systems, and almost all slowly starve to death within 6 months. Free frags and sand and water are good, just make sure the frags can survive under that lighting, softies, and maybe a small Euphylia placed high up.
 

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Bram is right......absolutely give up on the sebae (can grow to a foot in diameter) your set up is too small and has inadequate lighting. Second that flame scallop as stated their survivability rate is dismal at best. Should be left in the ocean as with electric scallops and other filter feeders. he sea hare is disaster waiting to happen.....unless you have a huge amount of hair algae you would have to be target feeding it. You will be limited in the coral department to softies, mushrooms, zoas and would be okay with most polyps types (star polyps, sea mat polyps zoas) Frogspawn/Hammer etc which are the euphylia family would be okay......just go slow and add only one at a time... letting your tank adjust to each new addition.
 

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ive read sebaes are hard to keep, but i was hoping to get something to host my perc(s)

and i plan on cultivating my own algae and growing some great calepra, and i am willing to take the risk of the sea hare taking down my system with its ink, as well. i know the hazards.

i have some time to actually think about it yet, and i dont mind doing water changes. i do them once or twice a week on my discus.

thank you for the feedback, ill keep everything in mind :)
 

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Yes mine host in a candycane coral when there is a perfectly suitable bubble tip not even a foot away......most captive bred percs don't know to host in a specific anemone and will host anything
 

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if i was you id just stick with the pair of clowns and goby and thats it besides a cleanup crew , corals, ect. id skip the sea hare..... i have a clown in my 10 gallon that hosts in my zoos so you dont need an anenome not to mention they dont do well in small/young tanks

btw i dont know what corals you can keep with that light its less than 3 watts per gallon prolly just zoos and shrooms




 

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Fuzz16

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hmm what about a rose anemone? thier pretty and even if my clown(s) dont host to itd be ok.
i think ill be sticking with a 29g and get a pair of percs, tux. urchin, rose anemmone(maybe), and a serpant star.
sooo much money for LR *cries*
 

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its not whether your clowns will host in it or not its that a tank that small shouldnt have an anenome plus the fact it should be a well established tank wich you dont even own one yet.... if you plan on anenome you need something bigger.... i paid $100 for my 55 gallon and another $75 for the stand at petmart a few years back
 

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just because urchins eat coraline, it doesn't necessarily make them a bad option

as for the anemone, you could certainly get a coral which has a similar appearance (torch or plate corals for example) but is much more compatable with a tank of this size
 

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yes, to the urchin comment, I have a pencil urchin and it is great, grazes on any extraneous algae, and I am sure he eats coraline too, but in a reef tank that is being supplemented your coraline should be to the point where the urchin can eat it with out really affecting it overall.
 

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