Algae taking over the world...

Oct 31, 2002
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Ok, here's the scenario.

I have a 44 gallon aquarium, 2 live plants, about 3" of gravel, 80 watts of light on 12 hours a day (CF). 1 albino cory, 2 flying foxes, 2 ottos, and 6 blue tetras. I've notcied the algae is getting a tad excessive so I cleaned it all up last night. I come home this evening and almost ALL of my gravel is COVERED in green algae! My water parameters are perfect, although I have no test for phosphates. What in the hell can I do to cut down on the algae growth? Any ideas are greatly appreciated!

*celebrate
 

Matt Nace

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You could add more live plants.

You can then, if you wish, add DIY Co2 to aid the live plants. It is not always needed, but usually helps in my opinion.

You could get a phos-zorb pillow for now.

How long are your lights on? If you put some plants in, I would keep them on between 10 to 12 hours on a timer. If 2 live plants is it, maybe 8 to 10.

A rubber or bristlenose pleco would be a nice addition as well to help with the algae.

Also, What does the algae look like?(strands, fuzzy, hairy, smooth)?
 

SoulFish

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common plecos get too a foot and would be too big and are not really algae eaters and require other things to supplement their diet, you could try a bristlenosed pleco, or a siamese algae eater if you can find it, a chinese would also work but might eat your plants
 

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jimmy what the heck is in the pic under your name??? gross man lol

anyways i have a common pleco which i had in my 20 gallon tank, he got about6-7 inches long in about a year to year in a half, then he stopped growing, now in my 55 gallon, 3 1/2 yrs later he has grown even more. from what i've read on them, yes they can get very large, but it all depends on the size of you tank.

I see no reason why you should not get one for your tank. they do not necessarly just eat algae, but mine always has helped along with my CAE's. also i'm sue all fish are different but my chinese algae eats do not bother my plants.

is your tank getting any direct sunlight?
 

wayne

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Uh oh, sounds like green slime algae - this grows real, real fast. I recently had an attack similar to yours., would remove it all and 3 days later, all back again. A plec won't eat this, almost nothing will in a freshwater tank, as it's not really algae, itsa kind of cyano bacteria. Forget chemical treatment as well - not recommendable, or a long term solution. Good news is it's not poisonous in all but a few situations - bad news - it can be a pain to get rid of.
You should test for background phosphate, then I think you have 2 real courses of action. You can go for big time water changes, very frequently, with mechanical removal of the algae (try a fish net). You also need to use a phosphate remover at the same time. This method may, or may not work, as you'll find a little nitrate or phosphate remaining will produce a whole lot of bacteria. I don't think it will for you, reason explained in a minute.
Personally I simply broke the tank down, and rebuilt it. I also put in a lot less gravel this time - I originally had a couple of inches of mixed stuff, under rocks, and I think this was such a nutrient trap, that no matter how often I puled water out, it would release nitrate & phosphate to 'refill' it in a few hours/days. I think you should do the same - if you only have a couple of plants why do you need inches of gravel - it's just hard to keep it clean when it's that deep. If you have a lot of rocks too, that hinders hoovering, and builds the problem. Now my tank has only 1/2 inch average of gravel, still lots of rocks, and only plants like java fern or anubias that I can attach to the rocks, not the substrate.
Note - this only happened in my malawi tank - deep, partly calcaerous gravel, lots of rocks, quite a few plants as well, so hoovering was hard. It doesn't happen too often in tanks with an acid pH, but changing pH is NOT the way forward - way too hard, plus when it all dies your filter will really suffer. Just a note that it never happens in truly soft water either - only hard and alkaline. Also note that I had low water nitrite/nitrate readings when this happened, so it may not be a measure of bad water quality, just a dirty substrate
 

SoulFish

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cmmon plecos also produce a crap load of poop (no pun intended) and will decorate your aquarium with long strands of poop from plant too plant, get a bushynosed they dont get big an dare true algae eaters, siamese algae eaters would still be best though, or more ottos they cna be funny in large schools atleast the ones at my LFS, they all sit along the glass going exactly the same direction in rows like a drive in movie
 

Oct 31, 2002
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Thanks everyone for the replys. Niki...I can't believe you don't like my pic of the corpse! Anyway, I'm gonna try a few of these methods...starting with more plants. The tank is new and that's why I only have 2 now, but I'm gonna get 3 or 4 more tomorrow. I'll also go for the bristlenose and more ottos too if I can find some. I plan to add co2 in the next month or so. Thanks again...we'll see what happens.
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cholula

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I have that slimey algae too.. vaccumed the crap off the substrate twice within 3 days as well as rubbing it off the java ferns.....i recently removed the UGF from this tank as well as half the gravel... but this is something I have just started to deal with.....
I pulled some driftwood out of this tank that was covered in this green slime and put it in my 150g tank that has a rusty, sunshine, and 3 common plecos... them boyz cleaned it up in just a couple hours!!! Who said that plecos dont eat that slime alage? My boyz are like mikey, they eat anything.

But seriously, the algae is a problem.... hate to tear the tank down again....
 

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Hey I have the same problem. It doesn't sound as bad as yours. It took a while for it to happen. Slowly the algea has gotten more and more on the gravel.
I have a Pleco about 4 inches, so maybe he has slowed it down. But let me know what you find out. The Simese Algea guys sound like the trick. That is..... if he would live very long in a hostile tank of gouramis and the Pleco....?????
 

cholula

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Well I only have a common I can throw in my
55g tank with the green slime so I did that.

The tank has 2 whisper 3s and I put a wooden
dowel under each filter to raise it up a bit. Then
I lowered the water level... now I get a nice
flow of bubbles in the tank from the filter
discharges.... I am staying on top of vaccuming
the slime out ever couple three days or so....
Tomorrow I will try to get as much off the plants
as possible.

-The battle continues.
 

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You need more plants;)

I think you need allot more than 5 plants total. The more plants you have the more extra nutrients they wil use up in your tank. If you have too much nutrients and no plants to use it, algae takes over. The more plants the better. I know they cost quit a bit if you buy them one at a time. Some companies have packages of plants for less per plant. Lets see
Aquariumplants.com
AquaBotanica.com
Tropica
These sites my not be 100% sorry.