Angel ID

[sweetpickles7]

Can u help me, im not sure if i have altum angels or not.They usual have 3 black bars but sometimes they only have 1 through the eye.

 

[Cichlid-Man]

Never seen Altums lacking bars and yours don't have enough turn in the lips/snout. As well, i've never seen true altums with fully red eyes. So i'd say no.

How big are they?

 

[sweetpickles7]

There about 2.5in long and probably 3.5 to 4in tall.

 

[Lotus]

They don't look like altums to me, either.