angelfish 46 gallon bowfront

BigDaddy420

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i seen a 46 gallon bowfront complete for 200$ at walmart and i have been looking into angelfish for awhile, can i get 4 into a 46 gallon bowfront with a few bottomfeeders? i was thinking of a special pleco like a clown or a royal, maybe even a bristlenose. maybe a pair of cories or some loaches?ive read conflicting statements on angelfish stocking, some say 1 per 10 gallons, that seems to be the most consistent. any ideas, suggestions is welcomed and appreciated, this is not for sure on the tank, im just doing some research and getting some opinions. id like to move my bichir into the 46 gallon with the angels also, anyone have any insight on angels with dinosaur eels(bichirs)?
 

CAPSLOCK

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4 angels in a 46g would work well, along with a pleco. Cories would be fine in there too, but you'd want at least 3-4, probably more like 6. I don't know how a bichir would do with anything though.
 

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BigDaddy420

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your fish is beautiful pure. i was looking around last night and found a 75 gallon with an all black pine stand for 350$ from PSP, so maybe ill have enough room for the royal after all, im gonna move my O into the 75 and make my 55 into an angel tank. now i just have to talk my wife into it, she insists that i have enough tanks, wait till spring and i build my pond, im sure that will send her over the edge! haha. maybe i can just build a moat around the house.
 

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IMO 6 or 7 would be fine in a 75, yes pairs will form. In a 46 this is a recipe for disaster. Angels get down right nasty when spawning. Simple fix is to sell the pair as a "mated pair". You will get way more $ for them *cha...ching* than if you were just selling fish. If you wish to breed the mated pair pull them from the 75 and place them in a 29 gal.
 

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Well the plan is that there will still be pushing and shoving, but it will be dispersed amongst the crowd. The trouble with pulling out the pair is simply that another will form if there are enough fish, and so on till you get a single pair or a couple of males, females. I have never made anything selling large angels - they are not especially valuable unless they're wild caught or particularly nice or unusual. Effectively for most angels you will give them away.
I had less trouble with my angels in a 250 litre when I had 6 rather than 4. 4 really is not a good number here - either up or down in my opinion.
 

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No, 3 is a really bad number. It's a pair, or a shoal. But know that pairs will form, and when they spawn, everything will be shoved to the other end of the tank.
I assume a 46 is 4 feet long?
 

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46 bowfront is just over 3 feet long actually...

I have one angel in mine and made it a community...didn't want to deal with pairing or what not. I think if I were going to do just angels and some bottom feeders I'd probably go for 5 angels...then keep an eye on them and when they get bigger watch if a pair forms and decide what you want to do. Maybe talk to your lfs in advance and see if they'll take some, or if they'd take a pair etc?

I've heard that 3 would be better than two (assuming that you dont have a mated pair)...kind of the same theory as with livebearers...only instead of the male picking on the female it would be to keep the bigger one from picking on the smaller one and kind of smooth things out a little. Least that was my take on angelfish.
 

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I bought a "mated pair" of angels a while back. They turned out to be a pair of females that lay lots of nice infertile eggs every couple of months :rolleyes: It might be better to try for a "proven breeding pair."

You could try asking if the store will sell you 6 and take 4 back when you get a pair mating up. They start to pair up when they're still quite small, so it might work.

Angels have large spawns (up to several hundred), and raising them usually takes a tank in itself. It's a really fun thing to do, but getting rid of them can be hard. We have sold a lot of ours at fish club auctions, and given some to the LFS. We still have about 20 left, and I think we must have had almost 100survive (I've really lost count). :eek:

Even if you have a mated pair, they do get aggressive when they start to spawn, and will chase other fish around, which can cause stress for the whole tank.
 

BigDaddy420

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eh thanks for all the advice, im thinking im just gonna steer clear of angels and try some other cichlid, or maybe ill turn the 55 into one big planted community tank. i like the way angels look but they seem like to much of a hassle, my oscar is already a handful and i like to dedicate myself to him mostly. glad i researched it before i went out and bought a bunch of angels.
 

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