Anyone have any tips 4 Zebra Plecs?

#1
Im pretty experienced at keeping fish but until now I've been limited to cheap fish (I flat out couldn't afford expensive ones).  Anyway I plan to pick up a zebra pleco in a while and I was wondering if anyone had any tips on keeping them.  Ive read all the overall keeping stuff on various sites but I am looking 4 some 1st hand knowledge.

Please help...Thx
 

Avalon

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Zebra Plecos are not much different that any other pleco. They are primarily vegetarian, although they will eat rotting meat (dead fish, etc.). A little driftwood would be good to supplement their diet of algae and zucchini with some cellulose. That's about it! I've owned several plecos, including the "premium" kind, and they are all about the same, just different colors and sizes.
 

colesea

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okay folk, time for another update on Mr. Zippy the Zebra Peco..

Mr. Zippy was purchased last Sunday.  He's approximately 1" in length and is currently residing in my Eclipse System Six with one purple male betta tankmate.  There is a "coral air" stone run by a TetraTec 30 pump in the coner by the intake tube, and I've placed in lots of rock and driftwood to make it look like a riffle part of a stream.  I've lowered the water level slightly so that the waterfall from the filter aggitates the surface more and puts extra bubbles in the water.

Luckily Mr. Zippy (or Ms. Zippy I can't tell<G>), has choosen as his hiding cave one that is easily viewable. Actually, I gave him really no choice. The driftwood piece I gave him lays on its side, propped up by rocks, and it is really the only wood-roofed cave in the tank. He has choosen none of the rock crevices to hide in.  So I do get to see him pretty often.  He doesn't do much, just stays in his cave and occasionally hops around behind one of the rocks if he catches me peeking at him.  He isn't even bothered when Purple Betta decides to enter his hidey-hole and do a little bit of flaring. Purple betta seems disgruntled suddenly with all this new decor in his tank, but he is fat on bloodworm.

Thus far, I have not phsically witnessed this zebra pleco eat.  I place a small fingernail size hunk of bloodworm in the tank at night before I go to bed (the betta eats a good chunk of that), and a wafer in the tank in the morning (the betta seems to eat that too).  I might simply place wafer in the tank at night since I'm worried the bloodworm might create an ammonia spike.  I see no evidance of food left over in the morning, but it could just have dissolved and gotten into the rock crevices.

Since he won't suck to the front glass to let me see if his belly is full, I can only assume he's eating something since he's still alive after six days.  The betta certainly looks fat though.  I did place a second piece of driftwood in the tank, but he seemed to have taken no notice of it, and it started to grow a nice white fuzz.  I took that wood out and placed it back in my 20 gallon, where it seems the Rainbow shark and perhaps the Clown Plecos there have cleaned up the white fuzz. From what I can see of his color, it seems clear and fine, no odd patches or red spots or any sign of disease or stress.

The temp on that tank is currently 78oF.  That is without a heater (we're in a summer heat wave, tank temps have been up to 82oF 'round here lately).  I put on my air-conditioner last night (ahhhh....) and today it seems Mr. Zippy was none the worst for it. Tank temps have dropped to about 74oF when I have the AC on.  I am considering placing a heater in the tank once winter comes.  I know my other tropicals can handle the lower temps (68oF-70oF)  of winter since they did last year without a heater just fine. Of the Zebra pleco, I don't know.  I'm willing to bet he probably could but why chance it.

I've been doing a 2 gallon water change first thing every morning. I can't tell if it is the new driftwood that is leaching, or if the bloodworms are causing minor spikes, but the water is very subtle yellow and it is not that color in my other tanks which I have recently change (I use the same water in all tanks).  I am picking up a new carbon today to see if that will help remove any of it. If it is the drift-wood, I'm not too worried about it, zebra plecos are suppose to like slightly more acidic conditions anyway and the betta does not seem bothered at all.

So there you have it, my first week with my first really expensive fish. I hope it continues to go well like this. If anybody has anything more to add, please do so. I'll probably give ya'll weekly updates since I know there are people interested in zebra plecos from the practical aspect of their care.
~~Colesea
 

#5
Cole, don't let that temp fluctuate too much. Zebras like warm fast moving water. I personally would add a heater set to about 80 for now. Zebras are wild caught, and ofrten full of internal bugs, which the higher temps help get rid of. I've even heard of going as high as 86 at the start to get the metabolism going and "make" them hungry.

You could also try Carnivore Sinking Pellets (Hikari). Harder for the betta to eat, and Zippy just might enjoy sucking on them. Remember, even though they are omnivores, they prefer a meaty diet. You could also try a little piece of blanched zucchini. All of my fancy plecs, even the meat eaters can't seem to resist the Zuke.

Good luck with the little guy. If ever I see Zebras, some will be coming home with me regardless of the cost. I WANT THESE FISH!
 

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I also really want a zebra or gold nugget (or other fancy kind o' pleco) ... but my experiences with plecos make me think I should hang back for now. I can't keep Temminkii alive. dammit!
 

wayne

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Keep that temperature high, up in the 80's.  As I assume he/she is wild caught, just think about where he came from, and thus what he might like.  He's been sheltering from fast moving, warm water, and living on small worms, crustaceans etc.
 

colesea

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#9
Mr. Zippy Day as a Zebra Plec

Hello all again and welcome to another installment of Mr. Zippy the Zebra Pleco.  For those of you who haven't been following his plight, I've graciously included the previous threads for you<G>.

Thus far it has been 4 weeks that Zippy the Zebra Plec has been in residence in the Eclipse system six.  To tell you the truth folk, I have no idea what I am doing right, much less would do wrong. Far as I can tell, I've been doing everything wrong, and the sucker is still sucking around.

This week got pretty dreary and tank temp dropped to a nice 72oF which most people would say is definately uncomfortable for Mr. Zippy, but he didn't even seem to flinch.  I got out the Tronic 100 heater, stuck it in the tank, now the thermometer reads 82oF but the tank sure don't feel like 82oF. Mr. Betta seems comfortable enough with it, so I'm not playing with the tank temp anymore.

Waterchanges have been lessened to 2 gallons 2X a week. The yellow color is all gone. I took the airstone out. I just couldn't stand the darn pump humming all the time, and Mr. Betta might not mind the filter, but he certainly didn't like the bubbles.  The tank looks much nicer without them, and the filtration on a System six is kicking so I'm not worried anymore either about fast flowing water. Again, Mr. Zippy didn't bat an eye.

The thing is, what the heck is he eating? I reduced bloodworm to once a week, the night before a water change the next morning, to cut down the chance of possible ammonia spike. Thanks to all the folk who offered advice on keeping it on the bottom.  Hikari bottom feeder waffers I stick two in each night before I go to bed, and in the morning they are covered in snails. Same with shrimp pellets, which seem to just crumble.  I placed in 3 Hikari Carnivor sinking pellets and 1 Wardly Spirulina waffer just about 15 minutes ago, turned the tank light off, and now the Carnivor pellets are MIA but the Spirulina waffer still there. Did Zippy eat his pellets? I also think he might be subsiding on whatever organic mucus grows in that tank. His belly looks very full, even after a day of fasting.

The snail population is booming! Maybe Zippy has a taste for snail eggs. Not witnessing him chow down on anything is worrisom, but since he's still alive, he's eating something.  He's still mellow and laid back under his driftwood cave during the day, and at night I've no idea where he goes. Probably into the jumble of rocks I have holding his cave down.

I have no idea what the pH is of my tank. It doesn't seem to be of a concern to Zippy.

So Mr. Zippy is just as zippy as ever. I hope this little informal log proves informational for folk considering a Zebra pleco.
~~Colesea
 

colesea

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#10
Eureka? Have we a hit?

Hello all, and thank you for tuning into the life and times of Zippy the Zebra pleco. After approximately one month of residence in Colesea's Eclipse System 6, by all the miracles of miracles, he (she? it?) is still alive! If any professional aquarist or breed of Zebra plecos would care to comment on how the heck I am accomplishing this feat, please, feel free.

With my Tronic 100 watt heater, tank temps haven't budged from 82oF. It doesn't seem to bother the Zipmiester or Mr. Purple Betta.  Neither seem bothered by temps, but in Zippy's case, I wouldn't know, having never really any experience with normal Zebra pleco behavior in the first place.

The wood cave is still Zippy's home, which is convient to observe him in. Quite frankly I don't think I've ever seen him not in his little hide out. Sometimes he clings upside-down from the ceiling, which I'm taking as a sign of good health since if a pleco ain't sucked onto something, it's probably a sick pleco.

Once a week I change out 4 gallons of water.  I use strait from the tap water after letting the facuet run for a few minutes, and I juggle the temp hot and cold until the water feels "comfortable." After water changes is when Zippy is most active. Usually I re-arrange the rock work around the wood, but try to keep the wood in as much the same orientation as possible. Zippy will hop about the tank, clinging to this rock or that rock until he comfortably settles back into his wood-roofed home.

Feeding has become quite an adventure. I still do so just before I go to bed and turn all the lights out in the room. Apparently Wardly algae wafers are just not a big hit, I always find them left-over the next day. Either that or I'm giving him too big a hunk of it. Ah well, more for the snails. I don't see the Hikari Carnivor pellets left over, but the filter could also be pushing them into a crevice of the rock work where I can't see them.

This afternoon I did try an experiment. I've had the tank light on all morning since I've been doing homework and sometimes like to watch Mr. Betta do his stupid betta tricks while I work. I placed a TetraMin Tropical Tablet in the tank for the heck of it, on Zippy's doorstep so to speak, and turned the light off, then sat back away from the tank. There is just enough ambient light in the room for me to see Zippy's contrasting pattern by. I go back to my work, then look up again a few moments later. Zippy had definately move closer to the TetraMin tablet, although my moment spooked him back into the deeper recesses of his hole.  Believe it or not I actually had a dream that kinda was one of those psychic moments where Zippy told me he likes the TetraMin tablets. I dunno. I will continue to vary his diet as much as possible (shrimp pellet, carnivor tablet, frozen bloodworm, betta pellet, bottom feeder tab, TetraMin tab) and nix the algae.

Maintance stands at 2 gallons water change/gravel vac a week. I don't have any carbon in the filter per say, the biowheel is probably all I need for the two fish. But I do need to find some way to get mechanical filtration better. The water is still a yellow tinge, which I don't know if it is because of the frozen bloodworm or that the tank is dirty from the uneaten bottom tablet.

Been thinking of giving Mr. Zippy some new tankmates. I saw the cutest smallest dwarf suckermouth catfish (otos) at real cheap (the LFS doesn't know what they've got and has labled them lined pencil fish) that would fit perfect in the tank. I've also thought of moving my 4 bloodfins to the lower tank, and I've considered getting some cories simply to help eat the food Zippy doesn't.

Hope you find this as interesting as I do.
~~Colesea
 

colesea

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Yeah I figured it liked the meaty stuff, but I wasn't going to take the chance and figured a little variety and veggie never killed anything. I will probably stop feeding it the algae waffers. Besides, the clown plecos in the 20 seem to dig spirulina, so that means all the more for them<G>
~~Colesea