Cycle question

GuppyGuy

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Hi,

Just a quick question my water has been cycling for about 2 1/2 weeks and i still have some ammonia readings while my nitrites are rising. I assumed that nitrite rose after the ammonia cycle completed. DO both ammonia and nitirite cycles happen at the same time? or seperately?
Ty GG
 

FroggyFox

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I thought the SAME exact thing guppyguy, my 10 gallon just finished cycling yesterday and I had measurable ammonia in it up until I took the fish out and started adding ammonia from a bottle so I think its natural. Just for the record it took that tank exactly 30 days to cycle :)
 

prhelp

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My experience was slightly different, however....

The ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels do not usually peak simultaneously.

As the ammonia begins to peak, it is ideally consumed by bacteria that form nitrites. This is a transition -- a gradual process. For example, assuming if you were measuring ammonia and nitrite levels every day....

- Day 11 of the cycle might show a higher ammonia reading, and virtually no nitrites.

- Day 12 might show a slightly lower ammonia reading, and a slightly higher nitrite level.

- Day 13 would show a much lower ammonia reading -- but a much higher nitrite level.

Don't worry about my designated of Day 11, 12, and 13 -- every cycle is different, but most follow the same process. Your nitrites will rise because they are consuming ammonia. Eventually, you will reach a point where your ammonia is near zero -- but your nitrites are peaking.

At that point, the last phase will take over: nitrate-forming bacteria begin to consume the nitrites. At that point, nitrites should drop -- and nitrates should (slowly) rise. Note the "slowly": the nitrite-to-nitrate conversion (phase 2 to 3) happens more gradually than the ammonia-to-nitrite conversion (phase 1 to 2).

Once your ammonia and nitrite levels are zero, your cycle is done. Ensure you monitor here everyday -- those need to be zero. Once they are, ensure the nitrates are rising -- but don't let them rise too high.

Long story short (or long) ;) -- you're fine. IF you should get "stuck" with high nitrites that won't come down (a fairly common issue), search around here and you will find help.

Until they, just respect the overlap and continue doing what you're doing. Good luck! :)
 

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Originally posted by prhelp
My experience was slightly different, however....

The ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels do not usually peak simultaneously.


This is very true. When I cycled my 29g, it took over one freakin month! The ammonia peaked, and dropped to zero. A week alter, nitrites started to rise. The nitrite was a pain, because it peaked for 3 dam weeks, but with patience, it went down. Now the tank is cycled, and I'm so happy because I lost no fish.
 

Flex26

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Originally posted by Super_Fishy
This is very true. When I cycled my 29g, it took over one freakin month! The ammonia peaked, and dropped to zero. A week alter, nitrites started to rise. The nitrite was a pain, because it peaked for 3 dam weeks, but with patience, it went down. Now the tank is cycled, and I'm so happy because I lost no fish.
Just wanted to reiterate this point. My 29gal just finished cycling yesterday (after 3.5 weeks). Ammonia was zero in about a week. Nitrites were about 2.5 weeks. If it weren't for the help of Bio-Spira. I think I would still be in a nitrite spike.

Bottom Line: Bio-Spira works!! :D I recommend it....if you can find it.