Doomhed's 25 Tall Show Tank Journal

Doomhed

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Well, after cleaning my old 20.5 gallon tank to set it up, I realized all the seals were essentially shot to hell and back. Yes, I have built custom fish tanks and could (in theory) easily spend 2+ hours sealing it up tighter than a dolphin's butthole (aquatic, not Miami). I decided I would rather buy a new tank that fit in the same footprint, since my old tank was over 15 years old. I found out that the 25 Gallon "Tall" by Aqueous fits the same footprint (within 1/2 inch) as my old 20.5 Gallon. The new tank was assembled in December, so I know it is fairly new technology (and silicone!).

It came with a 45GPH HOB filter (a weird looking one with all kinds of bells and whistles), a 100 watt heater, glass top and T5 light head with dual bulbs, one blue 6700 14 watt and another of unknown abilities/stats. Of course the promised "digital thermometer" was not in the box (though it did come with a large bottle of non-nitrogen "plant food" and a little bottle of tropical fish food), so I ghetto rigged a 20+ year old sinking pond thermometer to work for the time being. Yes I am old-school. No, I will not lead your rag tag team of misfits to victory in some obscenely over-hyped sporting event.




I painted the back of the tank black because...well....I wanted to dammit! I hate those fake plant backgrounds, and I want to have people able to see my fish from anywhere in the living room. In case you had not heard black is the new.....black.




The fish currently here are 5x Fathead (aka Rosy Red) Minnows that I purchased for the sum of 75 cents. They survived my extreme quarantine measures- a 4 gallon flat back, open top mop bucket with 3 gallons of 50 degree water, a 5-15 HOB filter, absolutely no heat and a neon colored hidey cave. I call this my "Quarantine bucket O' Doom (TM)". If they aren't killed by the temperatures, the current, or the horrific colors of the cave, they won't be dying of anything anytime soon. After filling and treating the tank water I transferred the bio sponge from the old bucket filter into the back of my newfangled filter. I added copious amounts of "Cycle", fired up the heater and the filter, and we will see how they do.




My next trick will be running my air pump and a bubble stone into the little hole in the back of the flowerpot on the right and covering the back end (and the rubber air line) with rocks to give the appearance of a broken ceramic pipe spitting out bubbles. Yeah, you wish you though of it. It's OK, I forgive your seething jealousy. There is still much for you to learn padawan. Yes, that is a piece of Dinka wood in the tank. Yes, I bought it over 6 years ago when you could get it for less than $300 for a branch that size. The smooth red stones are chipped red Irish flagstone and the rough ones Arizona Sandstone, formerly of my Oscar tank from those many years ago. The rocks are Lowe's pea gravel ($3.50/40 LBS) rinsed extremely well so as to remove most of the sand. I would say about 10-15% of the sand stayed, but it will give me a more balanced plant substrate. I like it because it actually looks like river gravel from the northeast. Most of the rocks are quite tiny, so hopefully I will be able to have a buncha Cories

Planned plants-

1x Amazon Sword, back right.
1x Java Moss, driftwood
1x Java Moss, ceramic pot
3x Anacharis, back left
3x grassy looking stuff Newman has (if I can find it around here), front left

Planned fish

I have no clue what I want other than some Cories and Ottos. There is a local mom&pop pet store that sells Julii Cories for only $2 each and Hypotristia (sp?) Cories for $2.50. I might very well go with a few native sunfishes, since they can be very active and colorful. Part of me really wants to just get 5 different colored female platies and let them populate the tank for me (since every female at my local pet stores comes preggo).

Questions, comments, concerns, suggestions and human sacrifices allowed here---->
 

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Well, my dad has these teeny tiny hooks that let him catch baby sunfishes and we have a local pond stocked with bluegill sunfish, orange spotted sunfish, green back sunfish, peacock bass, large+small mouth bass, northern black catfish and red eared sliders. Not to mention the non-native koi, plecos, silver dollars and pacus that have been fished out of the pond.
 

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Nice, that looks cool!! If you are going to keep native sunfish, I suggest instead of the corys, trying to catch one or two MAdtoms. Madtoms are a speaices of catfish that usually only grow about 4 or 5 inch long. I would suggest making a minnow trap Make your own minnow trap -- Boys' Life magazine and putting it in a creek or pond overnight filled with raw meat, then check it in the morning. This is just a suggestion for if you wanted to go even more native. Hope I helped!!! :)
 

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Nice, that looks cool!! If you are going to keep native sunfish, I suggest instead of the corys, trying to catch one or two MAdtoms. Madtoms are a speaices of catfish that usually only grow about 4 or 5 inch long. I would suggest making a minnow trap Make your own minnow trap -- Boys' Life magazine and putting it in a creek or pond overnight filled with raw meat, then check it in the morning. This is just a suggestion for if you wanted to go even more native. Hope I helped!!! :)
according to Madtom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a large number of madtom species are endangered or near extinction. I don't want to risk damaging an endangered population, but I will gladly capture sunfish, the pond rats of the USA.

AND apparently they have venomous spines...yeah...ouch
 

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clipping them? I'm sure that would hurt teh fish...but its your call I guess =/

Cool beginning, Doom.
I remember that Sunfish breed in the spring time to early summer, and sometimes after that ponds are just TEEMING with sunny fry. At one of my lakes I was able to net a couple of sub-inch sunnies and put them in my 10 gal. they lived for a few months but then I got bored and released all of them back lol. this was when I was 13 yo...
Anyway that's just an idea of when to look for sunny fry if you want some really small native fish to grow out in your tank :)

I like the platy idea, BUT my suggestion (only becuase I did not go with this in my 40 gal) is a trio of Green Sailfin mollies. one male and two females. IMO male green sailfins are the most striking FW fish besides some African cichlids.
w/e you choose, GL!
 

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I like the platy idea, BUT my suggestion (only because I did not go with this in my 40 gal) is a trio of Green Sailfin mollies. one male and two females. IMO male green sailfins are the most striking FW fish besides some African cichlids.w/e you choose, GL!
Yeah, there are zero green sailfins in my areas. I get a choice of orange, black, marble, pearl and black/orange. That's the list for molly colors. I am not the biggest fan of them though, mollies are kinda bullies compared to platies in my experience.

I might go for some marble cichlids depending on how hostile they get, I have heard differing opinions of them. If they don't work out I will be going with at least a few rams I think.

On another note, I think my minnows have laid eggs under one of the flat red stones. they tunneled underneath it and one of them is guarding the rock against all of his tankmates.
 

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well, tank is progressing as expected. Stats after tonights 25% water change-

PH 7.2
Ammonia 0.5 PPM
Nitrite 0.25 PPM
Nitrate 5.0 ppm

and mind you, this is after the water change. This tank is really loving the idea of screwing with me on cycling. I used to be able to cycle a tank in 5 days with 1 platy (I used to call him bob).

Ironically during the water change I found at least 4 little sproutlings floating along the tank (all java moss), and inside the large bundle of java moss I found a small plant that I believe is a false sword plant. It looks pretty sickly (as it was smothered by a giant java moss carpet) but I am hoping it will perk up.
 

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Adding some fish Thursday, listening to opinions. I have access to a ton of different types of fish and have to return my bulb anyways for some store credit.

I am thinking a snail, a Blue Gourami and 2 Bolivian rams.
 

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here is a slightly blurry photos of the bubble fountain during feeding time, thats why the fish are moving so much-



here is a picture of Blue, our new Blue (Melano) Halfmoon Doubletail



and another



he was totally worth the $5.99 I paid for him at Petco! A similar fish would cost over $65 on aquabid, and that's before the $40 in shipping to my area.
 

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I especially like the dorsal fin he has. good looking betta :)
that pot with the bubbles you have just gave me an interesting "upside-down" scape idea. I like how it looks like water is flowing from the pot upwards (ignoring the second less intense stream)
 

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yeah the second stream has actually dissipated down to some occasional spurts. I am replacing the orange rock on the far left with a tall piece of driftwood if I can find a nice one somewhere. sure it will cost me a pretty penny but it will make the tank look better imho.
 

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that Petco...
I saw a mutated, double-dorsal fin Betta when I was there last time...
Just to what extents is this chain going in order to stand out with their Betta selection?
 

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that Petco...
I saw a mutated, double-dorsal fin Betta when I was there last time...
Just to what extents is this chain going in order to stand out with their Betta selection?
what do you want to bet you could have brought that betta to a show and actually shocked the entire betta breeding community and made a buttload of money..if it wasn't a veil-tail...