Fruit Teteras

aidanchick

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Oct 22, 2002
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I'm just curuious if anyone has any information about fruit teteras? Like I've seen Strawberry Tetera at my LFS as well as well a tank marked "Mixed Fruit Teteras"

They are all pink, or blue-ish, or green-ish, and I think I saw a purple-ish one...

are they schooling fish? Do they do well on their own? etc...
 

lizwinz

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Oct 22, 2002
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Hi, I'm new to this but I've looked at these "fruit tetras" and thought they were cute so I researched them a little and found that they are painted fish.  From what I understand they are black shirt tetras that are put in a mild acid to disolve their slime coat and put into dyes to create their color.  Some are injected with dyes for more vibrant color.  Either way they are for the most part not healthy and might introduce disease to your tank.  Also the ones that survive lose their color over time.  So besides the cruel way in which they are handled they also will not keep the color that you want.
I'm not sure about lemon tetras though I think these might be a natural color.  If anyone knows please tell me.
 

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ronrca

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I would tend to agree with lizwinz. I think they are painted. Never buy painted fish as the paint will fade away. It is also not healthy for the fish.  *thumbsdown2* I actually do not buy from stores that sell painted fish.  :-X

About the lemon tetras. They are natural.
 

aidanchick

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Oct 22, 2002
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I kinda figured that they wernt natural looking.

The LSF I get fish from has never had painted fish be4 this (that I have noticed, but I think I do remember seeing the "strawberry" ones a year ago) .. I also saw "Painted Glass Teteras there.. werid looking fish, and well not attractive at all. They tend to get like special ordres in every now and then of ugly fish.. lol.

I dont think I will really buy those fish. I was mainly just curious to what kind of fish they were, and well if they were well.. normal.

Thanks everyone.
 

catfishmike

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Oct 22, 2002
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there is a lfs where i live and they were offering blueberry tetras as far as i know these fish are dyed thats already bad enough, later on my visit at that store the owner bragged that his wife was one ove the top fish doctors in the u.s. ya know it just goes to show that you always have to do your homework when it comes to fish.you never know what a store clerk will tell you.needless to say i don't shop there any more
 

Oct 22, 2002
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  The ones that are color injected that have naturally transparent bodies should be avoided. I have heard that there is a way that some are dyed that isnt so bad like what the wildlife people do to track fish, and it isn`t permanent. I don`t know if it`s true though. It supposedly tints thier whole bodies. It sounds kinda wierd.
 

Oct 22, 2002
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True, some of the mixed fruit tetras are colored artificially.  We have a couple blueberry and a strawberry that we got from a friend when we purchased her tank.  We can't tell for certain if the strawberry is artificial or not, but the 2 blueberries definitely are.  Our personal recommendation is to avoid any artificially colored fish, as it not only is inhumane (any method, not just injecting) but also seems to detract from the lifespan of the fish.  We now research everything very closely too make certain that we don't make the same mistakes that we made in the past again.
 

colesea

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Oct 22, 2002
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Wildlife researchers primarily track fish using radio or satilite transmitters (aka tags), or in the case of marine mammals, freeze branding.

The size of the transmitter determines the method used for inserting it. Some transmitters are small enough to use a needle with (very similar to those pet-id chips which are inserted subcutaniously between the shoulder blades) and are placed intradermially.  Sharks I know are given larger transmitters that are placed in the abdominal cavity through a surgical incision. Sharks may also be tagged on the dorsal or pectoral fin, but these tags are prone to being ripped out, thus lost, so I don't think this method is used any more. Look up shark research done on Bimini Island, Bahamas, they would have more reliable shark tagging methods.

Marine mammals such as dolphins are tagged with transmitters on the dorsal fin, as well as being freeze branded with an ID number just beneath the base of the dorsal fin.  Transmitters and tags on the dorsal fin are prone to being ripped out, so they are usually only applied to one member of a certain pod. Dolphins are also photo IDed by the shape of their dorsal fin and the pattern of marks upon it. This method is not the most reliable because a dolphin's dorsal may change over time (aquire new markings, heal, etc), many dolphins may have a similar pattern of markings (aka tips removed, double notches, etc), and the perspective of the photo can make even the same dolphin look like two different individuals between takes. Seals I believe are tagged on their flukes or flippers, and may even be ID with a non-toxic paint applied to the skin, which of course will wear off over time. Notching the flipper may also be another possible method of seal ID.

Polar bears are sometimes ID using non-toxic spray paint as well as a radio collar. During the course of a project, bears are given number ID on their rumps for easy tracking by air. This paint wears off of course and leaves no perminate mark on the bear.

Freeze branding is a harmless proceedure. The brand is chilled with liquid nitrogen, then applied to the skin. Animals don't even flinch. Freeze brands are also used to ID wild mustangs for release, usually on the neck beneath the mane.

I am not aware of any method of painting fish for identification in the wild. It would not be a fast enough method since it would require taking the animal from the field to apply the dye. Dying wild fish would also not be suitable because, well, how does one see the dye marks when the fish is submerged?  It would also change the color of that fish, making it "different" from the rest of the school and easier for a predator to pick off, in which case, your project is screwed.
~~Colesea
 

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ronrca

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I dont think Troy was refering to painting as a method of tracking but that the animal has to suffer because of the treatment or tracking device. I kind of tend to disagree however, the simple fact being that tracking animals is for a cause, to understand wildlife better and painting fish is for profit or sales. Usually, when tracking animals, they do not brand or tag thousands of animals of one species unlike painted fish, where hundreds of thousands of fish are dyed.
 

Oct 22, 2002
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   Well considering the reaction that i`ve seen on the internet, incluiding my own over these fish I don`t think they will last too long in the hobby. If experienced fishkeepers keep not buying them, and spreading the knowledge of how these things are produced, hopefully the industry will eventually move away from this practice. I`m not saying these fish aren`t pretty, which is why they are doing it , but i`ve had my Convicts for well over a year, and if they suddenly died from something the breeders put in them out of the blue i`d be mad as hell.