goldfish help !!
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The water parameter is as follow
PH 6.8
Nitrate < 5mg
Nitrite 0mg
26~27'C
I need to get a new ammonia test kits.
He been like that for about a week now, I think he didn't eat also for the pass 2~3 days. No physical signs of illness. I did try reduce the food and 1% salt but still didn't help. The other 2 goldfish (not in the photo) are fine.
I got a hospital tank standby, but other than 1% salt and clean water, what other thing can I do ? I suspect it's the fish blade problem .. he didn't seem to be able to balance himself.
PH 6.8
Nitrate < 5mg
Nitrite 0mg
26~27'C
I need to get a new ammonia test kits.
He been like that for about a week now, I think he didn't eat also for the pass 2~3 days. No physical signs of illness. I did try reduce the food and 1% salt but still didn't help. The other 2 goldfish (not in the photo) are fine.
I got a hospital tank standby, but other than 1% salt and clean water, what other thing can I do ? I suspect it's the fish blade problem .. he didn't seem to be able to balance himself.
Hmm, swim bladder maybe? I would suggest you move him to your spare tank so you can treat him specifically and not the rest. Plus, in the unfortunate case he may be terminally ill, it will reduce the exposure to the illness for your other fish.
Ammonia and lack of O2 will make a fish lethargic, and swim-bladder will make it very difficult for them to swim horizontally. Goldfish are susceptable to swim-bladder because of the anatomy of their stomacs.
Will he still move if you nudge him gently?
Ammonia and lack of O2 will make a fish lethargic, and swim-bladder will make it very difficult for them to swim horizontally. Goldfish are susceptable to swim-bladder because of the anatomy of their stomacs.
Will he still move if you nudge him gently?
yes, he still move when I nudge him... he will swim around for a while then go back to the same spot.
I don't think it's Ammonia cause both nitrate & nitrite is low... but I'll get a test kits tonight to comfirm that.
I have a air pump which supply planty of O2 so I don't think it's that problem either. Anyway, I'll add some H2O2 tonight just to give a boose to O2 level.
I don't think it's Ammonia cause both nitrate & nitrite is low... but I'll get a test kits tonight to comfirm that.
I have a air pump which supply planty of O2 so I don't think it's that problem either. Anyway, I'll add some H2O2 tonight just to give a boose to O2 level.
If it was ammonia the other fish surely would be showing symptoms too.
What type of goldfish do you have? Fancy goldfish, orandas particularly, are susceptible to swim bladder disorder, whereas commons and shubunkins are rarely troubled by it.
When he does swim, is it in a controlled way or is he all over the place? Does he have fins clamped to his body? Can you see anything in or near the gills?
What type of goldfish do you have? Fancy goldfish, orandas particularly, are susceptible to swim bladder disorder, whereas commons and shubunkins are rarely troubled by it.
When he does swim, is it in a controlled way or is he all over the place? Does he have fins clamped to his body? Can you see anything in or near the gills?
don't know where cwloo is but it's been a warm summer here mate and my "coldwater" tank, along with all the others has been up to 30oC - apart from my planted "tropical" tank which is at a constant 25oC as its at work in my airconditioned office.
so the tropicals are cooler than the coldwater fish!!
coldwater, my @rse, don't you mean room temperature? how many of us can afford chillers?
this of course is a different issue to mixing tropical fish and goldfish but in the Far East they have their own rules for what mixes with what. Discus and goldfish for example, I've seen it for myself!
so the tropicals are cooler than the coldwater fish!!
coldwater, my @rse, don't you mean room temperature? how many of us can afford chillers?
this of course is a different issue to mixing tropical fish and goldfish but in the Far East they have their own rules for what mixes with what. Discus and goldfish for example, I've seen it for myself!
ok .. no ammonia. So the water parameter is ok.
I'm in tropical so I can't afford to let him stay in "coldwater" ! Yes, local breed's goldfish & discus are ok for local weather as long as the temp didn't go above 28'c. That's mean no direct sun light too.
Not too sure what type of goldfish he is cause it's my frist time to keep goldfish. He was not swimming the controlled way and I notice that the lef side of the fin seem to be clamped to his body compare to the other side.
I moved him to the spare tank with some air stone. 1% salt with clean water (tap water in the tank for 2~3 days).
Any suggestion to medicine use ?
I'm in tropical so I can't afford to let him stay in "coldwater" ! Yes, local breed's goldfish & discus are ok for local weather as long as the temp didn't go above 28'c. That's mean no direct sun light too.
Not too sure what type of goldfish he is cause it's my frist time to keep goldfish. He was not swimming the controlled way and I notice that the lef side of the fin seem to be clamped to his body compare to the other side.
I moved him to the spare tank with some air stone. 1% salt with clean water (tap water in the tank for 2~3 days).
Any suggestion to medicine use ?
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Some goldfish do display odd behaviour, like sitting in a favorite spot for hours, but yours sounds like it has something internal that is bothering him.
I would start off with a broad anti-biotic, and talk with your LFS about which brand. (Remove any carbon filters you have in the tank)
I am also suspicous about internal parasites. They are harder to treat than Ick or flukes because you cannot see them. I never had to treat for internal parasites so I cannot suggest a medication at this time.
I would start off with a broad anti-biotic, and talk with your LFS about which brand. (Remove any carbon filters you have in the tank)
I am also suspicous about internal parasites. They are harder to treat than Ick or flukes because you cannot see them. I never had to treat for internal parasites so I cannot suggest a medication at this time.
Put in a hospital tank NOW, if you wish to save him.... Change the water everyday of your hospital tank, treat with an over all bacteria medication and anti parasite meds for as long as need be.... Treat the large tank and wait to see what happens.. He is obviously not happy there at the moment.......
To cool the water down a bit, float bags of ice on top of the water in your tank...
I saved one of my fancys that way it takes time, but do it, if you want to keep him...
Marie
To cool the water down a bit, float bags of ice on top of the water in your tank...
I saved one of my fancys that way it takes time, but do it, if you want to keep him...
Marie
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I second that Iggy: airstone and bigger tank/tub. I reccomend rubbermaid. They have like 40 gallon tubs (0r something around there) for 7 bucks. Can't beat that. Also, colder water will help him out. I know it doesn't seem like temp doesn't make too much of a difference, but let me tell you it is one of the most important factors in water quality. I can see a big difference in my jarred bettas (at room temp) and my bettas with heaters. Brighter colors, more active, healthy (My tanks have been disease free since February). The same goes for coldwater fish. As for internal parasites, I think Clout treats for that??
Alexa
Alexa
If he/she doesn't have a bigger container, in order to save the fish, this is better than nothing, it sounds like a bacterial infection ... This is how I saved my fish, I had him in a 3 gallon for a bit, and changed 95% of the water daily and medicated everyday after water change, fed him prior to water changes.. He survived and is now healthy.... I would do the same thing again in a heart beat.....
Yes an airstone, is necessary, but with the water changes it will be fine, for a short period of time.
Yes an airstone, is necessary, but with the water changes it will be fine, for a short period of time.