Help Me Determine His Cause Of Death Please

[FishGeek]

I just lost my male Pearl Gourami last night. This morning I went on the that disease website that gets posted on here alot I cant find out what went wrong. There were no outward signs of anything wrong with him. He showed no difference in behavior and he ate the night before. When I got home last night I found him spiraling. When he would stop he would bob to the surface with his head out of water. When he'd try and swim he would spiral again. I lost my female Pearl Gourami to the samething a few months ago (when they were in the 55G before the Discus came home). And none of the other fish got sick after that and this time none of them look sick either. What happened??

O and this tank has been up for a while and is fully cycled and my parameters are fine. (In case anyone was going to ask )

 

[mikety34]

sorry for the gourami's death but I myself cant figure out the cause of his death ummmm If im in your place.... I would put a video camera before I sleep so you could know the cause of his death good luck in raising your fishes!!!

 

[FishGeek]

Thanks mikety34. But I dont have a video camera and if the other fish dont have any signs then (its great ) I still wont know what cause my Pearl's death.

 

[Big Vine]

guppy_newbe,

Sorry about the passing of your gourami.

You're talking about the 30 gal. tank listed in your sig., right? If so, is the 1 Pearl gourami that's still listed there in the tank right now (i.e. you still have at least one living gourami left in that same tank)?

If so, then my best guess would be a swim bladder problem that's causing the erratic swimming---perhaps brought on by the gouramies fighting, and causing internal damage. I don't know about the pearls, but I've had opalines and golds that have really gone at it, and in the end I lost a few to this (probably internal bruising/swim-bladder damage along with stress, in general, that led to their demise).

Did you see them fighting (circling one another with mouth to body/tail area...not the same as mating!)?

You said he just started this erratic swimming behavior last night, right? That's awfully quick to "do him in," so to speak, but perhaps he sustained a severe internal (e.g. swim-bladder) injury and the stress of everything was too much for him to handle.
That's my best guess.

Hope this helps a bit.
Big Vine

 

[FishGeek]

Yes its the one thats in my sig. I havent taken it off yet. So no there isnt another one. Thanks for the geuss Big Vine.

 

[kristar1982]

guppy_newbe,

Sorry about the passing of your gourami.

You're talking about the 30 gal. tank listed in your sig., right? If so, is the 1 Pearl gourami that's still listed there in the tank right now (i.e. you still have at least one living gourami left in that same tank)?

If so, then my best guess would be a swim bladder problem that's causing the erratic swimming---perhaps brought on by the gouramies fighting, and causing internal damage. I don't know about the pearls, but I've had opalines and golds that have really gone at it, and in the end I lost a few to this (probably internal bruising/swim-bladder damage along with stress, in general, that led to their demise).

Did you see them fighting (circling one another with mouth to body/tail area...not the same as mating!)?

You said he just started this erratic swimming behavior last night, right? That's awfully quick to "do him in," so to speak, but perhaps he sustained a severe internal (e.g. swim-bladder) injury and the stress of everything was too much for him to handle.
That's my best guess.

Hope this helps a bit.
Big Vine

my first guess was swim bladder also based on the spiral swimming.

 

[Big Vine]

Yes its the one thats in my sig. I havent taken it off yet. So no there isnt another one. Thanks for the geuss Big Vine.

You're welcome...sorry I couldn't really help. If there were no other gouramies in there (and presumably no fighting), then I'm stumped.

Maybe someone else will have a better idea of what led to his mysterious death.

Big Vine

 

[svetlana]

I had a gourami long time ago who got the desease. It can be "whirling desease" as Lotus suggested back then:
http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/disease/p/whirling.htm

I had (my gourami):

Symptoms:
Loss of equilibrium +
Swims in a whirling motion +
Bodily deformations -
Nodules and boils appear on body -
Dark coloration on posterier third of fish +

I remember that he whirled and whirled... It was turquouse gourami

Also, he could hit a glass if somebody scared him and damaged his brains somehow... Or he had a brain tumor

 

[FishGeek]

Everything seems right except there wasnt anything visible at all. No Dark Coloration or Cysts of Boils. He did become lethargic but he still ate. Thanks svetlana for the help.

 

[edlockhart]

It must be the week for losing gourami, I lost 2 this week to the same thing. All other fish in the aquarium are fine and there were no visual signs of a problem until the spiraling. I let them both go for 2 days but eventually had to put them down.

 

[FishGeek]

Huh, Thats weird. I couldnt let it go with my male cause I did with the female when she died and I couldnt do that to him cause I new what was coming. Im going to miss him. He was supposed to go to Angelmom but...Im sorry Angelmom!! The rest are doing great though lol) I am gratefule for the help guys and gals. Anything that was missed or you notice please let me know. Is there a way to prevent this???