i just got my new tank and i got some questions

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i just bought a 29 gallon tank, and i put a columbian shark, a clown loach,one of them sucker fish's and 2 gupppies with the colorful tails.

i have one big piece of driftwood with some places to hide, and another figure that has places to hide, but i never see this fish come out, and i hear they are playful fish

also, what should i feed it? i take it the regular fish food wont cut it, and between the shark, the clown, and the algae eater, iunno what to feed them

thanks

mike
 

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im pretty sure they like sinking granules. I have heard of a great way to feed loaches and all kinds of fish.

ingredients:
peas
beef heart
flake
broccil
(any other green veges)

method:
put in a blender and mush it all up. then spread out thinly on a tray and put in freezer. when frozen cut into squares and feed your fish!

A great way to make sure they are getting the nutrients they need!
 

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92rsmuscle, did you cycle your tank yet? The columbian shark will get way too big for your tank, and if the sucker fish you are talking about is a pleco, it too will get too big. On the feeding, if it is a pleco it will need feeding, they only usually eat algae if they are desperate, try feeding it sinking pellets, the loach might enjoy those as well.
 

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also...guppies should usually be in the 2 females per male ratio because the male guppies are usually continuously bothering the females to mate :)

I also agree with Angelfish that the shark and the pleco will probably get way too big for your tank...you might think about taking them back and getting some more schooling fish.

If your tank hasn't cycled yet don't forget to read up on that. (the first thread in the freshwater beginner section is about fishless cycling, but there is a good article in the first message about the cycle in general)
 

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if you only have one loach, thats why he wont come out. their a fish that likes to be in groups of its own kind(get him a partner:D )

ive got five clown loaches and four come out and school, and the one that only has himself usually hides all day. i still need to get him a partner.:D
 

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Columbian sharks are often seen in the trade but for unknown reasons by many experienced aquarists. A columbian shark can get over 2 feet long, and they are schooling fish, meaning they need atleast 2 other companions. Columbians are also often sold as freshwater fish, while they are actually brackish and will not survive the long healthy lives they could in a tank of a proper size, with some of its own kind and water type. Please, for the sake of the fish, bring him back.

Plecos (sucker fish) get very large as well. They can get over 18" and in case you haven't noticed already they are very messy fish, meaning they poo alot! The need large tanks usually best over 55, with feedings of zuccini and cucmber to keep them fat and healthy. Please, take this fish back as well, so someone of a proper tank size can keep him.

Clown loaches are another problem. Apart from them liking to school, as already mentioned, they also get very large. Around 10-12" if not bigger. While they are beautiful fish, and full of life when healthy, being in that small of a tank, will surley do them no good. They also need a tank with a minimum of 55 gallons. Please, bring him back as well. They are very pretty fish, but just won't suit your tank at all.

Ok, now that I've gone over what can't survive, will start with what can. Guppies, a great beginner choice. However, as froggy mentioned above, they should be a 2-1 or a 3-1 reation females-males because the males will continusly pester the females to mate. Also, very quickly you will have lots of little guppies in you tank. That isn't nessicarally a bad thing but can be a bit of a pain, especially if you choose to try and raise them all to adulthood. Otherfish you oculd keep comfortably in your aquarium, would be swordtails, platies, cory catfish, tetras, and rasboras. Please, rethink your total aquarium plan, and try again!
 

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You actually didn't mention that your sucker fish was a common pleco...do you know what it is? If its something besides a common pleco it might not be one of the ones that grows large...but if you got it at the same place that sold you the shark I am thinking they probably didn't warn you about sizing issues...so it could very well be a common pleco.

Just didn't want to let it sound like we were bashing you by any means :) Just trying to help you have a successful tank
 

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oh no, another mike =P

I would agree with everything said here. The biggest problem I think with fishkeeping is the irresponsibility/greed of fish stores. It's not your fault you got fish that are going to be too big, you're like 99% of anyone that starts the hobby (myself included)

Just don't do what I did after getting good advice like you've been given here. I believed the fish store over this site, the store owner said "the internet is wrong" hehe. After a bunch of problems, needless to say, I started listening to the guys here and started looking for info on my own before buying fish. I hate to generalize, but you'll find a fishstore is generally more interested in making a buck than providing you with good info like "no this fish would not be right for your tank"

good luck mike =)
 

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yes, an honest lfs is sometimes hard to find. i just got lucky the other day and found one with honest people, so ill probably be going there from now on.

the advice you find here is probably more helpful then any youll get from a greedy store.
 

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Schooling fish are always fun. Harlequin rasboras are cool little fish, but a little picky about their water.

Guppies are cool...you could get some more of them!

Um...lets see you have a 29 gallon tank. You could get some cory catfish (everyone around here seems to love the little guys...they're algae eaters that don't get big like the plecos)

Zebra/Leopard Danios are my alltime favorite little fish...very interesting to watch, love to eat, love to play...and most of them don't bully other fish (they might chase them...but not usually bully them) Danios are also highly reccomended as a hardy fish for beginners and/or for cycling tanks.

Have you looked at the freshwater profiles section on the site? There is a lot of info there.

Oh in a 29 I think you could geta couple of angelfish if you like them instead of a bunch of schooling fish.

I think pretty much everyone around here has their favorite fish lol so you might get lots of ideas just reading around, maybe reading the signatures of some of the people who have tanks around the same size as yours.
 

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You could go for a angel, various gouramis, catfish, and like froggy said cory cats (except she must have been tired when she wrote that, because the ones I had never ate algae =) Your great Froggy :) ). You could also go for varying tetras. A good idea would be to go to your LFS, pick out the fish that you like, then tell us, then we can tell you which would be best.
 

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Oopsy sorry -=sheepish grin=- Good catch angelfish. I don't have them...figured you all had them for a reason so they had to be helpful somehow :D It was my tired brain filling in the spaces for me. LOOK AT THE TIME! It was way past my bedtime! (ok by like 25 minutes.)

Angelfish is right though about going to your local store and finding fish that you like though. We can tell you about fish until we're blue in the face...but seeing them live is completely different. Oh and bring something to write on...or I hope you have a better memory than I do. I go to the store and while I'm driving home go, "OH I already forgot the name of that cool little fish that I was going to remember the name of!"