ideas for one gallon mini aquarium

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ChazECJr

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I know that most people would say "the bigger the better" and "only one inch of fish per gallon."  But I also know rules of thumb can and have been broken.  That said, can anyone make a suggestion on what could be done with an unheated  one gallon tank with UGF?  From what I have read I think it could be a home to one betta and perhaps three white clouds, plus a ghost shrimp.   Can anyone tell me if this could work, or suggest something else?  (I have also read that several guppies might be OK in such a tank, but have read they will not tolerate low temps as well as a betta or white clouds, and they would be incompatible with a betta.)  I'd appreciate any helpful ideas.
Thanks.

Charlie
 

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ryanp15

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Yeah in a 1 gallon only the betta. If you get a 10 gallon like Cillana said then you could keep the wc and the betta together but not all of that in a 1 gallon bowl.

Eclipse tanks are pretty expensive in my opinion and not worth it, they don't allow for any expansion room. You'll be much happier with a 10 gallon tank too. That's what I would suggest. ;D
 

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I would not recommend keeping bettas and white clouds together. IME and IMO they are not compatible,because of  different requirements. White clouds need cooler, fast flowing waters, bettas need warmer, slow flowing waters. I have kept bettas and white clouds together and if the current was too strong, the betta got torn fins, if it was too slow, white clouds lost colour, weren't active etc. If the temp. was cool, white clouds were more active, had nicer colours, betta on the other hand was not at his best.
 

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[quote author=JWright link=board=beginner&num=1009514948&start=0#7 date=01/02/02 at 14:29:12]
I wouldn't put more than one neon in a 1g, and one neon isn't going to be very happy.

Josh
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If you had read the whole thread, you would see that we were talking about a 10 gallon. Although I think the original poster left. Probably didn't like the answers he was getting.
 

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If the poster is still here.........instead of a betta i would put a paradise fish in it bc the paradise fish likes to have lower heat levels anyway.  But, i would strongly suggest to get a larger tank... atlest a five gal *twirlysmiley*


                               Daniel
 

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ChazECJr

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Obviously no one here thinks I should keep so many fish in a gallon of water.  But just so you don't all think I'm totally crazy, the inch rule has apparently been violated by others with sucess:

This site recommends 3 white clouds for a 1.5 gal bowl (with 5 quarts of water):
http://www.aquariumfish.net/information/fish_bowls.htm#top2

This person put 6 wc's in a 2 gal aquarium:
http://members.aol.com/x32394/mini.html

Here is a 2 gal eclipse with betta and what looks like FIVE cardinals (thought they were too fragile for something like this though):
http://www.leebelt.org/jessica/Onyx_Oleander/_Jessica_s_Ark/Aquaria/aquaria.html

I have also read that betta and wc's have been kept together, with success.

Perhaps I should not put 3 wc's in my tiny tank, perhaps just a pair (m/f) with the betta and one ghost shrimp.  Other than high nitrates requiring more frequent water changes, can anyone tell me what problems you expect me to encounter?

Thanks.
 

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JWright

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Others have done it, big deal. That doesn't mean those fish were healthy.

I'm not going by the "inch-rule" I think that's one of the biggest jokes in the hobby. But, if you put anything more than a Betta in a 1 gallon tank, you're going to have stressed fish. Especially if it's unheated and unfiltered.

Josh
 

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Pooky125

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I had a 1 Gallon UGF aquarium for about 6 months with a small amazon sword and a african dwarf frog that loved quite happily in there until they were moved into my bigger aquarium. There was minimal care (20% water changes weekly and full aquarium changed monthly) and he was entertaining at night, coming out to swim and play. Just remember to change the air stones.

if you had a little more money, id spring for a 2 gallon. You can buy a heater for 1 and maybe like 2-3 neon tetras. I guess it all depends on your choice. I got a 12 gallon eclipse for christmas, and spent a couple weeks deciding what i was going to put in it... i think i finally have mine stratened out. whatever you do, dont let anyone else discourage you!!
 

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Pooky125

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yes but, is theres sumthing out there you want to try, try it. im not saying go out a put a full sized bala shark in there at all, im saying, if you think you can do the 3 tetras and a couple shrimp, then why not try it? if it doesnt work, it doesnt work, ive discovered you have to experiment with things to see what you can do, and what you cant...
 

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ChazECJr

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Oct 22, 2002
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Pooky,

Thanks for being a supporter of my apparently bad idea.    You're the only one so far.

Josh,

The link posted previously said that 6 white clouds thrived for 3 years in a two gallon tank.  Were these fish "stressed"??  If so, I guess I hope to stress mine the same way!

Charlie
 

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JWright

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"if it doesnt work, it doesnt work." That's an awfully cavalier attitude to have toward the creatures you're caring for. Something "not working" using means unhealthy or dead fish.

You even used the word "experiment." You do realize this is life we're keeping in our tanks, right?

chazecjr- Those fish _survived_ for 3 years. I doubt they reached their full growth potential, and yes, they were stressed. You say you want your fish to end up like this? Why are you in this hobby then?

So you've noticed that you only have one person supporting this idea. Perhaps that's a hint. Quite a few people on this board are experienced fish-keepers (I'm not saying you two aren't, I don't know enough about you), and they're honestly looking out for what going to be the best for your fish.

Regards,
Josh
 

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