Lowering ph...

Oct 22, 2002
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How do I lower my ph of 8 to 6.5 for discus. The 48g tank is done cycling and now needs the right paramiters. Some avice would be really helpful ;D
 

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discusaquarium

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#2
there are two ways

1. buy a RO unit or tap water purifier and mix with tap to achieve the right pH

2. filter through peat and add lots of driftwood. the tannins in the driftwood will lower the pH and the peat will soften and lower the pH the same way. the only drawback to this is the water turns a tea color.

i personally would go with #1 because the water is clear, and its alot easier to maintain. peat has to be changed every two weeks and can smell pretty bad. RO water can be drained into a spare tank and stored for later use.
 

dork187

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Oct 22, 2002
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if i could afford a RO unit i would get one
but
i am a poor poor dork that doesnt get paid for what hes worth
what is the cheapest/decent RO unit you have seen joe?
i would love to get one
but right now i just filter/age my water with peat
one bag of peat <2inx1inx4in> can lower the ph of 5 gallons of water in a few days ive found
almost lowered it too much
i had to add clarified tap water to bring the ph up the my tanks level
i think its a good system
for a poor dork
 

dattack

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Oct 22, 2002
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I live in California too but don't you get like bottle water for your home like Arrowhead drinking water.  Well my parents have a RO system for drinking and it works well for my aquarium setup but it can only take like 10 gallons a day and I have a 60 gallon tank.
 

JWright

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Oct 22, 2002
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#6
If you have to lower your pH, don't do it with store-bought chemicals. They'll often lead to pH bounces and quite a few contain phosphate based buffers, which can lead to algae trouble.

I would also reccomned you use peat. You can buy it in various forms and stick it in your filter.

HTH,
Josh
 

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ronrca

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#7
How much peat would I need in a 90G to stabilize my ph around 6.8-7.0 from 7.6? I have a Filstar Xp3 filter where I can put the peat in but Im not sure how much in needed and how often I have to change it.
 

kagal

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Oct 22, 2002
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my friend has shown me a way to do it...get some oak leaves that are ready to fall of the tree....put them in the water...this will lower the ph too....he said for some reason its just oak leaves.....doing that now for my fish he just gave me
 

dork187

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Oct 22, 2002
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how much peat is a interesting question....
a little goes a long way
from what ive heard you can go from anything like hanging a small pourus bag full of it from the side of the tank
or putting a bag of it in your filter
a couple of pieces of bogwood from my lfs

just a guess...
i would use 10-15 grams maybe?
 

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discusaquarium

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#10
dork is right, it all depends what you want the pH to be and what size tank. i'd add a little bit and keep checking the pH until you get it to what you want. then you have an idea on how much to put in.

dork in response to your "cheap RO unit" i'd look for a tap water purifier. those things are probably just as good as RO units, and produce no waste water. the only drawback is having the intake tube blow off from the sink. they are quick and easy sources of excellent water. most RO units do 10 gallons per DAY. the tap water purifier does 10 gallons an HOUR.
 

Oct 22, 2002
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How much peat it will take depends on what the buffering capacity (KH) of your water is to begin with.  If you have a high KH, it is going to take alot of peat.  In cases such as this you would be better making the water in a seperate area first.  What many people do is this:  take a large plastic garbage can and fill it with water.  Fill some nylons with peat and let them soak in the water until you get low PH, low KH water.  Then, mix this peat filtered water with your tap water to get the desired results.  You might want to drop some airstones in the can as well to provide some aeration and keep a film from forming on the water.  If you go this way, just go to your local gardening center and buy a large bag of 100% peat moss (make sure there are no additives in it).  You will save a ton of $$$ over using "aquarium peat".
 

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ronrca

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#12
I added some peat into my filter on Saturday. The question I have is do you have to rinse the peat before using it to wash off any dust or not? I did rinse the peat in a nylon stocking and the water was dark brown. Im not sure if by rinsing the peat, it shortens the life.
 

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discusaquarium

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#13
rinsing it is fine, its in water, where it will be anyways, just not adding all the crud to the tank. go ahead and rinse it, it will last about 2 weeks then you'll have to start over.  ;D
 

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ronrca

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#14
How long will it take before I notice a change? I have noticed a slight change in pH but nothing drastic.
 

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ronrca

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#16
I guess I didnt use enough peat then. I will give it a week and if nothing changes much, I will add more peat. Thx!  ;D