Natsuki Sick Already

#5
I actually just noticed he has raised scales. I have no idea how he got dropsy though and his belly's not big. I didn't have him in the same tank that my other betta Ryo was in who had it was in and I wash the net with hot water between every different tank I touch. Is there any other way he could of got dropsy or could it be something else?
 

Lakea

Large Fish
Oct 14, 2006
317
0
0
Texas
#6
Dropsy is usually a result of kidney problems, the fish is not able to eliminate the water coming in his system giving him a swollen appearance, raised scales, etc. I don't know of other things that cause raised scales, but I haven't searched so I don't know.

Dropsy is usually a result of poor water conditions or bacterial infections, keep the tank extra clean, keep the water parameters in check, try some bacterial medication, maybe a salt bath. Other symptoms include lethargy and loss of appetite, washed out color. Dropsy typically is fatal though, I am dealing with a cory with dropsy. If it is dropsy I wish you the best of luck.
 

Lakea

Large Fish
Oct 14, 2006
317
0
0
Texas
#8
It may not be from poor water conditions, but that is just the number one cause. What i have learned though, is that your water parameters can be excellent, and you could be doing water changes, but there could still be something polluting the water, some kind of decaying material.

Some ways to check your water, smell -your fish water should not have a bad odor to it (though carbon filters usually hide any odor), look- put some water in a plastic cup, it should look clear like water from your faucet, surface agitation - if you agitate the water, like by swishing your hand in it, the bubbles created should dissipate really fast. If you do find you have any of those problems it would probably be best to do like a 20% water change daily until it clears up.

But if it is bacterial you need some medicine that will work on internal infections, that is probably your best bet if it is dropsy.

I know your tank is relatively new, you water may be perfectly fine and I notice I have been ragging on you a lot about poor water quality, I just want you to know I am not trying to insinuate anything or say anything bad about your water, it is just fin rot and dropsy are usually symptoms of poor water conditions.
 

#9
Natsuki passed away this morning it was dropsy because last night his belly got really swollen, the only thing I can think of is that he had it when I bought him because the only other fish I'm having a problem with is my other Betta Eclipse. I've been taking extra care of him with spring water for a while and still no progress. I just think his tail isn't ever coming back is that possible? But I'll check on the water like you said.
 

Lakea

Large Fish
Oct 14, 2006
317
0
0
Texas
#10
actually I have heard if fish are exposed to bad water conditions it can affect them later on in life. I have noticed a large trend with bettas getting dropsy maybe it has something to do with the way they were kept in those little cups, I don't know, but if that is true than it is possible that he had it when you got him, or was headed that way.

As far as eclipse is concerned, tails normally are able to regenerate the tails, that fact that it is not growing back could mean that the fin rot is still there, but I have read that older bettas take a longer time to grow their fins back, I don't remember if you mentioned eclipses age. Also have you tried anything other than Melafix? You may need to switch medication.
 

ninamarie

Superstar Fish
Jan 4, 2006
1,285
0
0
Kalifornia, Silicon Valley
#12
try the betta fix drops, they made my betta's tail and fins grow back fast after othe other betta jumped the divider and tore him up.

Cleant eh tank really good and add inthe fresh water and medication and then mr betta in there and do a weekly cleaning of the tank.

Good luck, sorry about the other betta.
 

Lakea

Large Fish
Oct 14, 2006
317
0
0
Texas
#13
I may be wrong, I have never used the stuff, but I think medicated foods are mostly for internal infections, I don't think they would help with his tail. You may try some Maracyn-II, it is a stronger antibacterial, this stuff will kill of your good bacteria though. I don't know anything about bettafix, but I figured it is some general antibacterial much like melafix, may not be strong enough.
 

joy613

Medium Fish
Mar 2, 2008
99
0
0
#14
Melafix and bettafix has tea tree oil in it that can cause irritation to the labyrinth. FishGeeks :: Tropical fish - Marine Fish - Aquarium Fish - Pond Fish - Aquatic Plants
Super clean water is always a good start, higher protein food like frozen blood worms or brine shrimp. Use medication like Lifeguard, triple sulfa, or Maracyn 1 and 2 with bettas.

Some people use a pinch of aquarium salt others say it is a strict no no. I use aquarium salt but not much. Indian almond leave is another natural antibacterial that a lot of people use for their bettas.
 

Lakea

Large Fish
Oct 14, 2006
317
0
0
Texas
#15
I have used melafix and pimafix with bettas without problem, but I have heard about tea tree oil causing irritation, may not use it again. But most minor fin rot can be dealt with by simply keeping the water clean, unfortunately I think this case may require some more help.

As far as aquarium salt, it supposedly does help when fish are trying to regrow fins and whatnot, it might help to use it, also keep your tank warm.

One last thing, my Bettas absolutely loves frozen bloodworms. I have never heeard of high protein food helping with fin rot, but either way your fish will love it!