our fish are dying...help us please!!!

ualin

New Fish
Aug 19, 2009
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We used to have a small fish bowl I would say less than 1 gallon with 5 Guppies, with no filter, just a plant. They used to live in our friends tank that didn't have a filter either. We had them there for about 3 months and no problem at all.

Now we moved to a new apartment and bought a fish tank which is roughly 2.8 gallons, with a filter and a light and some ornaments including a big rock and some plants. We put 1 cap of "Super Aqua Safe" and 1 cap of "Beneficial Bacteria Booster" and left it there for about 48 hrs before putting the fish inside. We had the guppies living happily there for about 1 week with no problem at all, and since we had them before on a way smaller tank we decided to get some more. We bought 2 cardinal tetras, 2 beautiful male guppies and a sucker, and everything stayed being ok for some days. Later we decided to get some more fish to make our tank more colorful and so we bought another cardinal tetra, 3 neon tetra and 1 female guppy. Every time we bought new fish we sunk the bag inside the tank for a while before releasing the fish so the water was approximately the same temperature. We think it was the next day that the problems started. One of the male guppies we bought started swimming funny, like head up tail down, rolling and died about 12 hours later, then about 24 hrs later the same thing happened to the last female guppy we bought. During the next 48 hours the male guppies we had from the beginning did the same trick of swimming head up tail down and died (one first, later the other), we noticed their bright orange fins started to get darker before they died. We even tried to isolate one of them in the fish bowl we used to have our fish but he died anyway. At some point during this whole process we thought we might be giving them too much food so we reduced the amount, we also noticed that the small sucker was eating a lot of food from the bottom of the tank and thus pooping longer than his body's length (gross). We also though we might have been turning the light on for too much time during the day so we also started doing that less.

So after all of this we noticed that the all the fish started to get sick, because the guppies colors went darker and the neons and cardinals colors started to fade (red almost gone). So we had this “Anti Protozoan & Fungus” our friend told us to get when we first set up the tank. The doze said 1 cap every 20 litres, so we put half a cap every 24 hours at about 7pm, a couple of hours after putting the medicine the fish still look bad but every morning after they look good. This process has been repeated for 4 days so far and we don't know what to do.

Meanwhile, one of the female guppies we had since the beginning and that we though might be pregnant had the babies. We don't know how many they were, but at least 3 of them survived and we didn't noticed them until yesterday.

This morning we saw that they looked good, so we decided to stop the medicine. As we read somewhere before, we replaced a part of the water (about 30%). Everything was ok during the day until we came home at about 8pm and they looked pale and dark again. For some reason we turned on the light and came here to write this and we checked on the fish again they regained their colors! All except for one neon tetra which was hiding in the shade with his colors still faded, so we took him out to the fish bowl and came back here to post.

To sum up we now have 2 female and 1 male guppy, 3 cardinal tetra and 2 neon tetra on the fish tank and 1 pale neon tetra in the bowl that won't even eat.
We are really sorry to be some stupid newbies but we don't know what's going on and what the hell to do. But we love our fish and we don't want them to keep dying, it makes us sad every time we have to take one out of the tank.

There's one other mystery in our fish tank, from day one there were these small white balls that looked like tiny styrofoam balls, which after using the medicine for a couple of times turned light blue. We thought they were nothing but then they started to get on our nerves so we took them out. These things were squishy and when you pop them there's some sort of pus inside of them (yuk), we still have some of them inside the tank but in tight places so we haven't taken them out yet.

tl,;dr: we are stupid newbies with dying fish
 

MadridKid

Large Fish
Dec 25, 2007
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you cannot cram all those fish into that small of a tank. that tank that you have could only support the guppies if ANYTHING. I would recomend you return some of your fish to your local fish store before the whole tank is killed...
 

MadridKid

Large Fish
Dec 25, 2007
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the issue you had was that all the fish were dying because they were swimming in their own crap. if you want a tank with many fish you will need to do a lot more research, cycle your tank (which you should look up on google, or a reliable website), a larger tank, and knowing to place one inch of fish per gallon into your aquarium. these are the bare minimum basics here...
 

tlkng1

Small Fish
Jul 17, 2009
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If I am counting right, you have 8 fish remaining in an aquarium that is under 3 gallons. I am hoping when you typed 2.8 you meant 28. If this tank is in fact under 3 gallons, you are still overstocked by about 5 fish. The general rule of thumb is one inch of ADULT fish per gallon, but, depending on the surface area of the tank (width times depth) as in the length across the front of the tank times the length from front to back, this could actually be less. Either get a larger tank, at least a 20 gallon for the fish you have left (preferably 29 gallon or better), or return some fish to your local LFS, although, if they are ill, the likelihood of the store taking them is pretty slim.

You might read over some of the beginning fishkeeper articles here on the site. They will help in determining a minimum required tank size for the type of fish you wish to keep and general instructions on the Dos and Don'ts of keeping fish.
 

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Feb 27, 2009
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Until you can get a more appropriate sized tank, take a water sample to your local fish store for testing. While there, buy some PRIME decholorinator.

Depending on your test readings, use the appropriate amount of PRIME to detoxify the ammonia and nitrite levels (you'll need to OVERDOSE the normal dose to help combat the nitrite levels, the instructions are on the bottle of PRIME).

This may keep them alive long enough to get a bigger tank established for them.

Good luck.
 

Aug 16, 2009
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First off, you have way too many fish in such a small space. Any size gallon of tank smaller than 15 gallons is usually a no-no to begin with, since conditions are soooo extremely difficult to maintain in a small tank. You should have 1 gallon of water per inch of fish. You must also consider how large the fish will be when they mature. For example, if you have a molly fish that is 1 inch now, but will mature to 3 inches, you will need at least 3 gallons of water for that particular fish.

Possibly those little bubbles are fish eggs. It depends. If you have livebearers, such as guppies, mollies, and platies, they will have live babies. But other fish will scatter or lay eggs around the tank. I'd do some research on the type of fish you have and what type of eggs they lay, if they lay eggs at all.
 

tlkng1

Small Fish
Jul 17, 2009
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There was an indication that when you turned on the light, the fish looked pale again. Fish will naturally lose color in the darkness so that is normal. It isn't a health indicator however.

My many fish look just about the same color just after the light comes on. On top of that, they are always "resting" at the bottom of the tank, which is also normal during lights out.