possible body rot?

Sep 22, 2003
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i'm having a catastrophe. yesterday, i had by perfectly healthy betta die on me from some illness i've never seen before. he had this little area on his side that looked like his scales/skin was peeling off of him. i put in medicine and in less that 10 hours of the spot first showing up he was dead. he had been COMPLETELY fine the day before. now my other betta (who is over 3 years old) has it not on the side of his body but on his head near his eye and its spreading like crazy on him. same symptoms (not eating, scales/skin peeling off, starting to kind of swim in circles). does anyone know what this is? i feel so bad because he's old and i know he might not be able to fight this off as a result. i feel like my bettas always have something wrong :(
 

Sep 22, 2003
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well, shyrone died over night. i woke up this morning and he was gone. whatever he had had taken over his whole head. ive never seen a disease progress that quickly :( at least he's not suffering anymore :( I had him for over 3 years and he traveled over thousands of miles (a very well traveled fish indeed). i'll miss him very much :( especially how he always flared when i came up to the tank :( poor shyrone
 

Quagaar

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This sounds like an all too common bacterial infection. I have lost 6 bettas to the same disease all within 3 weeks of the first one showing the symptoms. In all cases, I failed to stop the progress of this infection and all fish were dead within 12-24 hours of the first sign of something being wrong.

In all cases the first sign was a small grey patch, which looked as you say like either a scale raised or peeling. The patch then spreads and in 4 or the 6 the fins rotted away as well. This is a particularly nasty infection, and it seems to only effect bettas as 2 of my 6 were in community tanks and nobody else suffered any ill effects.
Meds I tried were:
maracyn1 and 2 together.
Oxytetracylcine.
Nifupirinol
All to no avail. I'm truly sorry to hear about your fish, but I am trying to build a pattern for this, can you tell me if you kept your betta with salt in the water. I have so far found no patern, this isnt casued by poor water quality, poor diet, stress, or old age, as none of these are present in my betta tanks, so I'm still hunting of the casue of this illness myself.
The only think I can suggest at this stage is to completely break the tank down and sterilize everything, what ever this bacteria is its a betta killer, so dont add another betta to that tank till its fully 100 percent nuked.
One of the main thing that comes back time and time again, is the poor immune system modern bettas have, this could be inpart due to large betta farms pumping them full of growth enhancers and oxytetracline to prevent illness setting in, in the filthy puddle they are bred and raised, it could also be due to how lose to the gene pool bettas are bred, another fish thats starting showiung similar symptoms is the very popular dwarf gourami. Its with this reason that my local fishstore have taken both fish off their lists. I am currently betta less and in search of a small local breeder to see if this assists in reducing this problem

Again sorry to hear about your betta
RIP shyrome:(
 

Sep 22, 2003
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thanks so much for your condolences. i didn't keep him in any salt water. yeah i tried jungle fungus eliminator (the one time ive seen this medicine not work) and melafix. i'm letting the tank soak in vinegar (something i've always done to sterilize tanks). i hope someone can identify what this is. it was like an attack of the body snatchers or something...as quickly as i saw he was sick it seems he was dead :( well, i still have my 4 other bettas in my 10 gallon divided tank that are doing fine. just hope they stay that way. thanks again for the condolences and your desire to learn more about whatever disease that was.