Red Zebra Cichlids?? Blue?? Orange?? Or both??

Corydora

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I read along time ago in one the many books I have that Red Zebra's come in two different colors. The males are blue and the females are orange. We asked our lfs to order some because we thought that would be cool to have a male and female but when she got them they were all only orange. I was just wondering if maybe the book I read was wrong or females are just more common? I really want a blue one. Does anyone know if this is right or wrong?
 

catfishmike

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Oct 22, 2002
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yea,thats the drawback of reading old books.back in the day scientists weren't always equiped well enough to do a extensive study of fish.especialy in places like africa.sometimes when finding new fish in the rift lake they would find to fish that looked totaly different other that similar body size,and the would decide that they had found two new fish.but in reality the had caught the male and female.so for years people would wonder why the fish wouldn't breed.anyhoo if you look in axelrod's mini atlas there is 5 pages of pseudotropheus zebra,and they all have diffrent patterns.wheres somonas he would know this?
 

SoulFish

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Oct 22, 2002
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With Red Zebras the males are blue and the females are red/orange, but the strain commonly seen in the aquarium hobby has been bred so they are all red/orange and if there are blue ones the farm will likely not sell them because its not what the buyer is looking for generally.
 

Somonas

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Oct 22, 2002
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Soulfish pretty much summed it up but I can go into further detail. warning the following is pretty boring.


Red zebras are probably my favourite fish because of what I am about to explain. the estheraes were named after Esther Grant, wife of Stuart Grant one of the exporters from Lake Malawi (Kambiri Point,Salima)

Red Zebra, aka Metriaclima Estherae is caught from Minos Reef, central eastern Lake Malawi. Males are blue, there are white ones too but they are rare. Females are orange. There are also orange blotch females. About 10km south of Minos reef you get yellower females, further still down near Chiofu you get brown females.
All Estherae have yellow "egg spots" on the back of their dorsal fin. This is the only species of metriaclima (formerly pseudotropheus) that has egg dummies in a spot other than the anal fin.
There is a COBALT blue zebra also at Minos Reef with brown females, (metriaclima zebra blue reef) this fish does NOT have egg dummies on it's dorsal. So - the metriaclima estheraes know to stay away from Blue Reefs ( and not crossbreed).

ok. about breeding.

Blue Male + Orange Female = Blue male fry, orange female fry.
Blue male + OB Female = Blue male fry, OB female fry.
WHITE male + O female = ORANGE male, orange female
blue male + brown female = blue male, brown female

so those fish you see in the hobby "red zebra" are probably metriaclima estherae IF there is a blue male and they have egg dummies on their dorsal. However most common in the petstore is "RedxRed" which was created if you remember above I said white male + orange female = orange males and female fry.... what the florida guys do is import a white male and breed it like crazy
If you guys dont see any egg dummies on your redxred fish they are either a) not estherae, b) not red zebra or c) a crossbreed.

References -
Diving experience at Minos Reef, Chiloleo, Gome and Chiofu, where I watched breeding occur in the wild
Ad Konings, in conversation
Personal experiences in the aquarium however my white male has not bred AFAIK
Lake Malawi Cichlids 3rd Edition. Ad konings does a very good jon of explaining the different fish at Minos Reef - red zebras etc.... what I wrote above was trying to paraphrase what he has in his book