Setting up a new tank...

Queso

New Fish
Oct 22, 2002
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Hey guys,

I am kinda new here (been lurking for about a month).  I have a nice 29 gallon community tank setup in my bedroom.  I recently inherited a 42 gallon hex tank + stand.  It came with a Magnum 350 w/ Biowheel Pro 60...  I think the filtration for it is a little strong, but too much never hurt anyone, right?  I want to go with a slightly more advanced tank setup, I was thinking maybe cichlids or discus, maybe even angelfish?  How many of those types could I stock in a 42 gallon tank?  Does anyone else have any cool freshwater tank idea's for a hex?

Thanks,
Josh Owens
 

Troy-N-Eli

Large Fish
Oct 22, 2002
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From our understanding, for discus, you need 10gal capacity per fish, but have no actual experience w/ same.  From trying to set up a cichlid tank, we were told by the guy at the LFS that a couple pairs is the most that you want in one tank.  You also want to put them all in at once so that none think that their territory is being invaded, since they'll have issues w/ that.  As far as the angelfish go, our research has shown that you need a small school of 4-6, but that also varies depending on your source.  When all else fails, if you trust the folks from your LFS, ask them.  It took us a while to find a person we could trust, but when we did, he turned out to be a fish encyclopedia.  Well worth travelling a bit out of the way.

As far as a cool idea for a hex, none here right now.  The only hex in our collection is a 2gal that we use for fry.  Have looked at some others, just not sure what to get yet.  Good luck on it, just the same.
 

colesea

Superstar Fish
Oct 22, 2002
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I wouldn't suggest cichlids of any variety in a Hex. Ciclids need -space- to establish territories, and the wider and longer your tank, the more room fish have, the less aggression you will have. Very few fish are actual verticle swimmers the way a hex is designed, and cichlids are definately in need of wider space over gallonage when stocking levels are concerned. Some cichlids also grow -large- and the narrow confinds of a hex wouldn't allow a 10" fish room to manuver.

I wouldn't reccomend adding all the cichlids all at once unless your tank has been completely cycled. While two pair of certain SA cichlids are all that could be stocked in a 42 gallon tank, to add them all at once will most certainly ammonia spike your tank unless you have it compeletly cycled. There is an article on how to fishless cycle a tank on this website. But even then, you would want to add fish slowly to "test the waters" so to speak. Even in a cycled tank, ammonia spikes can occure from overpopulation all at once.

The knack to stocking cichlids is that, if you have a population in the tank already, and wish to introduce another fish to the tank, you must -rearrange- all your decor. Cichilds are territorial, and will fight amongst each other until the pecking order and territories are established. This pecking order will remain relatively stable unless a fish is removed or a new fish is added.  It is always a good idea to add two or three cichlids together so that the aggression of the existing population is not focused on -one- newcommer, and to rearrange the decor so as all the fish are fighting each other for the establishment of new territories, thus diffusing the aggression still more so it is not just the newcommers trying to fight it out for themselves. Territory holders are more likely to be stronger and healthier than "invaders" so making everybody fight over "new" territory evens the playing field. Eventually a new pecking order and territories would be established and the fish will settle down again, the newcommers acting as if they've always been there.

With the hex you have, I would stick to smaller community fish such as tetras and corries, so that the tank is "large" relative to the fish, giving the fish more room to manuver. Just because you have a whole lot of gallonage doesn't mean you can have "big" territorial fish like cichlids. I've seen some 36" tall tanks that were only 12" wide, and the 10" fish in them were very uncomfortable even though the volume of water could support them. Besides, tall tanks have circulation and lack of oxygen problems without lots of filtration to move water off the bottom for O2 exchange at the surface.
~~Colesea