snakehead fish

Jul 22, 2006
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Thats a giant fish... How do you think a person would be able to take it out of the tank? No way ever that I will hold a fish with my hands!

Thunder
 

Rush07

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Mar 1, 2006
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I kept one for years until they banned them in the US. Actually I kept him after the ban but when he passed I was unable to get another. Anyway, they are very cool, very mean fish. Most predatory fish that I have had will only go after what they can get in their mouth. This fish seems to do it for the fun of it. I had it in a 220 with a Wolf Fish for a while that was about the same size (12 inches or so). I came home one day to find the Wolf Fish bitten in two but there was no attempt to eat the fish. Apparently the tank "wasn't big enough for the two of them". I had him until he was about 18 inches and he died. I was very surprised since they are next to impossible to kill. They can tolerate fairly cold water and can live out of the water for quite some time. He would only eat live food and I would feed him about 18-24 goldfish every other day. I swear I could hear his jaw snap shut when he ate them! My guess is that he finally got a "bad" feeder fish with some sort of disease. I remember the guy at my LFS saying that it was odd that you needed a permit in the state to own Piranha but not Snake Heads since they are so much more aggressive and Nasty. If it wasn't for my fear of getting caught I would try and sneak another one across the border, but I don't have the money for the fine and wouldn't last a day in prison! Let me know if you get one. I would love to hear your thoughts.
 

Jul 22, 2006
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This fish was banned from USA?! When did that happen and why? Thats funny, because USA can not ban these the fish, because they can live anywhere in the lakes or whichever the place they live at.

Thunder
 

seastaar88

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Feb 1, 2004
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snakeheads have been introduced to many parts of the country where they are reaking havoc. a lot of times, fishkeepers that no longer want to keep them release them into the wild (something you should NEVER do). the compete with native species for resources and have the potential to drive some into extinction. they also have no natural predators in the usa. since they're insanely hardy (can withstand temps to -50, can live out of water for a few days, they'll burrow themselves into mud to stay moist if their pond gets very low...) they can survive almost anywhere in teh usa. most snakeheads are from asia, but i think there's one species that's native to florida (i'd have to look that up...). their diet consists of other fish, and they are voracious predators!

they started making headlines in 2002 when one was foudn in maryland. they made more news in 2004 in my neck of the woods when they started to appear in mass and connecticut.

the usa banned the IMPORTATION of snakeheads into the usa and across state borders, and it is illegal to posess one without a permit.
 

angelmom

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Dec 19, 2005
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THUNDER said:
This fish was banned from USA?! When did that happen and why? Thats funny, because USA can not ban these the fish, because they can live anywhere in the lakes or whichever the place they live at.

Thunder
Because of what Seastaar said. They were Banned a few years ago (from being imported). They also want you to report any sighting of them to the Department of Fish and Wildlife, so that they can monitor the waters they are found in. I don't remember if it was here in Connecticut that they poisoned a pond that they were found in because they were afraid they would move to the near by river.
 

seastaar88

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no they won't attack a human. i dont believe that there are any reports on that.

angelmom, often, if authorities can't catch a snakehead by traditional means (traps, electroshocking, etc), they may drain the pond (which brings up problems since they will burrow into the mud) or yes, sometimes even use poisons. a sad thought, but to sacrifice a few fish in order to save the many.....
 

angelmom

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Piranhas don't go around attacking people for the sake of attacking people they mostly get set off by blood in the water like sharks. It makes them go into a frenzy. I watched something about them on Animal Planet not to long ago quite interesting. People in the Amazon swim in the same water and most have never been bit. Here is a link I found that you might find interesting.

Piranhas
 

Rush07

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Mar 1, 2006
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Just to clarify, I believe that it is illegal to import the fish. I have seen a few in stores that are "trade ins". I guess this is OK as long as they are not imported. The problem with Snakeheads vs. other predatory fish is that they can survive in cold water, i.e. Connecticut lakes. I believe most other fish like Piranha will die in these temps. I know in the case in Maryland someone released a breeding pair. They estimate that it took less than 2 years for the pair and their offspring to completely clean out all other species of fish. Scary.
 

seastaar88

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remember when there was that pirhana that was found dead in the thames river in england?? no way it could have survived becasue it was too cold for them. again, some idiot probably released it from a tank....

two years ago, there was a 3-foot alligator in a pond a few towns over, i was working for the CT DEP at the time and the crew i worked with was sent over there to try to get it outta there. apparently it outgrew some kid's tank. real smart.

rush, i think you still need a permit to keep a snakehead, even if you do buy it from a shop...
 

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Hey Gonzo,,,Remember last summer when they found an alligator in Carter Lake?... he was about 3 ft long.... This is an example of idiots buying these for "Pets" and when they get too big, they release them..... This is Nebraska, and to my knowledge, Gators are NOT native to this area. :p
And on the Snakehead subject.... A friend of mine had one in a 180 g tank, the state found out about it, confiscated it and fined him $5000. This was about a year ago. To this day, he is trying to figure out how the state found out. He had that Snakehead for almost 11 yrs. It was over 18 inches long. And what a Mean and nasty fish he was.
 

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Dr.Gonzo

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Yeah that was weird, do you remember a few years before that when someone caught a Piranha in the Missouri? I'm glad they can't live through our winters, not that I'd ever be caught dead in that river.

Or maybe that is the only time you'll find me in that river...
 

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Kinda long but I though you might like reading this, this happened about 4 hour from where I live!!!!!

Yesterday, authorities tried to play down the possibility that the predatory fish had spread, saying they used electric shocks and large nets to gather fish from the surrounding waters and had found no other snakeheads.

Still, to be sure, they said they will drain the five-acre lake beginning today.

"I'll be confident when the pond is drained," said Steve Early of the Maryland Department of Natural Resources.

The northern snakehead is native to China and Korea and is prized as a food in several Asian countries. It is imported to the United States for sale in some fish markets and as an aquarium fish.

If it is released in a pond or lake in this area, experts say, the snakehead is instantly at the top of the food chain: It can grow as large as 47 inches long and weigh 15 pounds. The fish can clean out a pond of native fish, officials said, and it also eats insects -- probably including this year's expected bumper crop of cicadas.

The snakehead caught Monday appears to be about 4 years old -- old enough to reproduce, though it is still too early in the year for breeding, Early said yesterday. Because the fish had not been dissected, authorities were not sure of its sex.

The draining of the lake, which is no deeper than eight feet, will begin this afternoon and probably be completed tomorrow morning, authorities said. They said native fish will first be captured and then reintroduced to the lake when it fills again with water.

Early said that authorities would continue to look for snakeheads in other bodies of water, including downstream. But he said that with a food-laden environment such as Pine Lake, a snakehead would be unlikely to leave.

"If they've got a good place to live, they're not moving," he said.

The fish was caught by Terry Wintermoyer, 23, of Silver Spring, who was trying to catch a largemouth bass with a lure called a top-water spinner.

Wintermoyer said yesterday that he had made several casts from the shore when he saw something dart out from under an underwater rock and take the hook.

"I was pretty positive it was about a 25- or 30-pound largemouth, the way it was fighting on the line," Wintermoyer said. "It's probably the most fighting fish I've seen so far."

When he finally landed the fish, Wintermoyer said, he was surprised to find a sleek, scaly thing weighing only about four pounds. He said it had the head of snake and the teeth of a shark.

"I hadn't seen anything like it in my whole life," he said.

Wintermoyer said that a friend recognized the fish from news coverage about the Crofton snakeheads. They put it in a plastic bag and took it to a nearby station of the Maryland-National Capital Park and Planning Commission Police.

There, he held the bag up in front of a window where an officer was sitting.

"I think I caught what they call a snakehead fish," Wintermoyer told the officer.

Officials confiscated the fish, which Wintermoyer said he would have eaten otherwise, and kept it in a water-filled wastebasket. Experts from the Department of Natural Resources confirmed that it was a northern snakehead.

Officials said they did not know how long the snakehead had been in the lake or who had put it there.

"I don't think there's any way to find" the culprit, said Doug Redmond of the parks commission. "If someone were to come forward and say they had done it, that's probably the only way to find out."

Redmond speculated that the snakehead may have been a pet that was released after it became too big for its aquarium. That was the case with the snakeheads in Crofton, which originally were ordered as food, then kept as pets by a man who lived near the pond.

In general, authorities sought to play down the threat posed by the fish, saying they were dangerous only to fish, not to people.

But Wintermoyer told a story that hinted otherwise.

He and his friend were debating what to do with the fish, which was lying on the ground inside the plastic bag. A park maintenance worker walked up, curious, and stuck his foot near the animal.

Suddenly, Wintermoyer said, the snakehead lunged.

"It put a pretty good tooth mark in his steel-toed boot," he said.