The Bare Tank Project

Britfish

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Oct 22, 2002
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Hello!

Just got my dream 200 gallon glass tank 96"x24"x24" so the question is what am I going to do with it....it's HUGE :)

Please leave your suggestions,  all will be considered, freshwater/marine/equiptment/stock.......

Isnt this fun.... like planning your new tank for very 1.
(One of my favourite parts of the hobby! )

So!!! Suggest Away!!!!!!   Thanks!!!!!!!!!!

Britfish
 

colesea

Superstar Fish
Oct 22, 2002
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Are you planning to swim in this tank? Sheese that's a lot of water<G>!  Hmm...I'd probably go Lake Tanguaneki african cichlids. It's different, and easy to take care of.
~~Colesea
 

Britfish

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Oct 22, 2002
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Hiya Cole, I think I might buy scuba gear for adjusting the decor,   I had thought about the Cichlids, I dont think theyd be too terrotorial with this much space.  How many would I be able to stock?  I've calculated (get this) tropicals, I could keep 196" of fish excluding finnage. Apparently,  :)
 

jts112278

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Oct 22, 2002
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200 gallons and all that rock for a chiclid tank? Hope you dont live in a second floor apartment. I personally would do a discus tank. Eventually leading to a riverbed/amazon feel.

Or you could just get about 200 neons
 

keprydak

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Oct 22, 2002
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I agree with jts. An Amazon biotope would be awesome. You could keep a huge Apistogramma community with several generations, with rams too, and discus, and tetras and lots of amazon swords.... If you want, when I get my stupid Apistos to spawn, I'll send you some offspring. They are triple red Apistogramma Cacatuoides.

http://www27.brinkster.com/keprydak/rock5.html

that's my male. Or, you could check out the lastest issue of TFH, in the article called "Through a Small Window" and keep perenial species that will eventually populate your whole tank - apistos would work for that, as well as killifish and the likes.

south american cichlids all the way :)
 

Pooky125

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Oct 22, 2002
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Do a couple freshwater stingrays! I'll give ya sum links to look at..

http://badmanstropicalfish.com/stats/misc_stats/stats_misc4b.html#motoro _ray
i think these are Tea Cup.. Same stats anyway.

http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~y-miura/fws/Esyurui.html#reticulata  
This site has lots of different types of Freshwater Stingrays.. God, some are so georgious!!

http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/gstingray1.html
This site has peoples personal experiences on it

http://www.eddiesaqua.com/carestingray.htm  
Some basic Sting Ray Information

http://www.geocities.com/altcnj/rays.htm
A Caresheet.  

If that doesn't strike your fancy, what about a reef? There are some beautiful reefs out there, and with a 200 gallon tank, thre would be no end on what you could put in there!
 

Lynn

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Oct 22, 2002
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I wouldnt keep an arowana...they get to big for a 200G. 200G may be large....but its not an ocean. I would personally keep 5 oscars and 1 common pleco myself. Or perhaps a shoal of clown loaches, 5 bala sharks and a few Kissing gourami. :)
 

Britfish

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Oct 22, 2002
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OK, thought about it, Im gonna go with the reef idea....  What do I need to get :)  (Sumps not an option coz of the cabinet, I was thinking berlin method)?
 

dattack

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Oct 22, 2002
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Hey Britfish,
A reef tank that large of a tank is an expensive endeavor.  However, I have a friend who is a microbiologist/cancer researcher who is doing an experiment on cycling of saltwater tank.  He's been doing experiments on cycling and cycling time and it his data shows that his tank cycled in last then 7 days.  He in fact, doesn't use "live" rock but got some "dead" rock from another reefer to cycle.  But one of the main ingredients in a cycle was the use of sand.

He did a control experiment on cycling on a bare bottom tank without anything and using a bolus of ammonia, the ammonia was gone within the first 24-48 hrs.  The bacteria required to break down ammonia isn't marine in origin but terrestrial (from the air/environment).  However, the nitrates/nitrite remain high with a bare bottom tank because of no bacteria (nitrogenous) that breaks down nitrates/nitrite.  With the use of sand, the excess nitrates/nitrites broke down within only 2-3 days, therefore completing the cycle.

It's a myth that people have to overload with a few dead cocktail shrimps or even fish for cycling.  All you need to do is to seed or bolus with a small amount of ammonia/ammonium chloride and your tank should cycle within less than 7 days.  So you can save money if you can find "dead" rock which are porous and placement of some sand.

He stated that this work will be publish soon in a reef paper.  Stay tune within a month or two.

If you don't believe, try it yourself.  Get a 10 gallon tank, add some sand, add a few ppm of ammonia, and measure your levels before the week ends.  It should amount to zero.  No need to bombard with dead cocktail shrimps and live fishes.
 

Britfish

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Oct 22, 2002
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so let me get this straight.....  sandy bottom, dead pourous rock , add some ammonia chloride and hey presto??  Is that before adding the salt? Does it have to be a particular PH?
 

dattack

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Oct 22, 2002
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Add sand, add some base rock, then add your saltwater.  Once you mix your saltwater with instant ocean or other brands, your pH will be around natural salt water levels (?8.2).  

Then I would buy one small piece of "live rock" to seed your tank.  In a few months your base rock will have growth similar to that piece of live rock.

I would test out the theory on a 10 gallon tank and check your levels in 7 days just to make sure.  Like I said, these are preliminary results so far and it breaks away from the convention of waiting 4-6 weeks for a tank to cycle.  
 

colesea

Superstar Fish
Oct 22, 2002
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Yeah, if you're gonna do as Dattack suggest, start off with a ten gallon first, because it's always good to have a q-tank going cycled before you get the main tank up and running. And with something like that, you'll definately want a cycled q-tank!!!  A saltwater tank like that is a very expensive project. The fish themselves are very pricey, and nothing sucks more than to buy a fish and have it wipe out your population because it wasn't qaritined before it went in the tank.
~~Colesea