what r amphipods-copepods?

JCS11236

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hey guys --quick question-

i like interested in the madrin but from what i hear--i eats copepods and amphids only---what are they --and how do i get them in my tank---are they those little tiny white bugs i see in my tank?
 

OCCFan023

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Jul 29, 2004
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Just wait until Lordroad sees the thread... he'll have a feild day lol. He has a real cool project going with Mandarins in his nano. Look at the thread The Mandarin Canidate... should answer all of your questions
 

aresgod

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Mandarins are tough to keep, even with lordroads tank full of pods he lost one, and most of us are not willing to go to such lengths to keep a fish. There is one key to success with a mandarin. lots of live rock. otherwise they are just gonna die. It is recommended that the apropriate poundage for 1 mandaring is 70-80lbs of live rock. I have about 85lbs in my 40 gallon and my mandarin is fat and happy. I would not recommend keeping them if you have a newly established tank. It should be up and running for a good 8-12 months before you add one. and you also can't have any other organisms that will compete with the mandarin for food. USA marine fish and reef did a nice article on mandarins. might wanna pick it up
 

Grymatta

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aresgod..with your mandarin tank..do you add more copepods in? or does your LR provide enough food?

I know you can buy live copepods to dose your tank but its pretty pricey.
 

seastaar88

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to answer your easy question -- amphipods and isopods are small "water bugs;" they're small crustaceans. you can cultivate them in a refugium, but like others have said, this is for a more experienced saltie. may want to do a search on refugiums.
 

lordroad

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Damn, how did I miss this thread.

I keep a mandarin in a ten. Like aresgod said, I lost one already. If you're curious about my project, check out my thread in the saltwater main section OCC mentioned earlier.

A healthy mandarin can wipe out a pod population in a ten gallon in no time. With my new specimen, this happened in a matter of 3-4 days. Simply amazing... I've actually posted some pics on various threads with the pods in view on the glass. Now they are nearly all gone. The amphipods come out at night, so the tank isn't totally barren, and there are some in the pod pile, continuing to reproduce and infest the scrubber pads I have in there (for more surface area, imprisoned by rocks to keep the fish out), but the ones visible in the tank are pretty much history.

Obviously, I haven't abandoned my experiment, and I still honestly believe it is possible to keep a healthy and thriving mandarin in a nano environment. To this extent, I'm willing to buy aquacultured copepods (see seapods.com for a list of online retailers) and inject them into the tank as needed. I tried culturing them on my own, following the detailed advice of another pod company, but I feel this did not work.

I have some speculations on my new mandarin eating food other than pods, but I'd rather not make any assumptions as I don't really have any facts right now.

Check out my thread and do some online research on mandarins if you're interested in keeping them. They require specialized care, but they can be kept in nano tanks if one makes sure the fish is getting enough food.