Whater has yellowish color

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Paco2009

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Jun 1, 2009
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hi im new to this site, barely started fishkeeping couple
months ago.
i added a really nice piece of wood that my grandfather
had in his house, he told me it was driftwood, it stayed in
the bottom and had really nice weight to it, just wondering
if it was this wood that is making it yellowish.
other than that i only have blue gravel and a few fake plants
in the tank. still cycling.

-thanks
 

CoryGuru

CoryGuru

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Jun 1, 2009
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Paco2009 said:
hi im new to this site, barely started fishkeeping couple
months ago.
i added a really nice piece of wood that my grandfather
had in his house, he told me it was driftwood, it stayed in
the bottom and had really nice weight to it, just wondering
if it was this wood that is making it yellowish.
other than that i only have blue gravel and a few fake plants
in the tank. still cycling.

-thanks
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I would'nt recommend using driftwood from the beach, because since it wasn't triple washed in a factory, it could even have oil remnants from oil spills in the ocean water in which it was floating. :eek: :(
 

DesignsOnYou

DesignsOnYou

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Jun 21, 2008
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The yellowish color is due to tannins leeching from the wood. They won't harm your tank, and can be remove by either boiling the wood, using activated carbon in your filter for a while, doing water changes, or some combination of the above. I do agree that it can be risky to use driftwood without knowing where it came from, but people do it. It's up to you whether or not you want to take the risk. I also wanted to interject that the product recommended by CoryGuru, Cycle, did absolutely nothing for my tank, and most on here would agree that it's pretty useless. If it worked for someone, great, but I wouldn't look to it as an instant cycle. Glad you're cycling. MissFishy has some really good info on her page, which I believe is a link from her sig. If it's not too late, fishless cycling, as recommended by catinthehat is often faster and usually less stressful to you and your future fish, but if you're already doing fish in, just hang in there and try to keep your ammonia and nitrites below 1ppm. I know this is more than you asked about, just wanted to clarify a couple things. Welcome to the tank.
 

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Paco2009

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Jun 1, 2009
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thanks for the suggestions guys, and i do think i
will just keep it in there and just do water changes
and add some carbon like desingsonyousaid, thanks
alot for the help.
 

homebunnyj

homebunnyj

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Jul 13, 2005
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CoryGuru said:
Hey dude don't go to the trouble to cycle. This product performs like an immediate cycle accerator because it establishes a beneficial bacterial colony instantly, allowing immediate introduction of new fish:

Nutrafin Cycle 8oz.

Believe me this is no rookie trick, it worked with my Cories!
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I'm glad it 'worked' for you, but Cycle is useless IMO. If you have to buy something to throw in your tank (because your attention span is a bit short for fishkeeping, maybe?) get Tetra Safe Start. I prefer just cycling that tank, though. The only truly reliable shortcut is to seed the tank with bacteria from an established tank.

I found this at aquaticpredators.com :

FYI...I emailed Nutrafin and asked the following questions:

Does Nutrafin Cycle do the job of cycling a tank by itself or does it have to be done in conjuction with "Fishless" or "Fish" cycling. Also, when starting up a new tank, the box does not say how long after the intial dosage are you supposed to put in your first fish. Any help would be appreciated.

and here was their response:

Dear Ryan,
Cycle will cycle the tank without fish. Fish can be added at any time, but you should only start with one or two for the first month. If you want to wait until the tank is completely cycled, you should wait a month before adding any. Once the tank is cycled, you can add one or two fish on a weekly basis. Please reply if you have any further questions.

Thank you,
Sharon Emond, Customer Service Dept.
Rolf C. Hagen (USA) Corp.

Funny... if I add only one or two fish during the first month, I can cycle my tank without adding any crap to it. Sounds like a fish-in cycle to me. Plus, they recommend you add more Cycle every week. Why, if your tank is cycled??
 

CoryGuru

CoryGuru

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Jun 1, 2009
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It establishes the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate eating colonies instantly. If you use it as directed, everyday, for the first week to week & 1/2, you don't have to wait several months.
 

jo3olous

jo3olous

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Aug 6, 2008
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CoryGuru said:
It establishes the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate eating colonies instantly. If you use it as directed, everyday, for the first week to week & 1/2, you don't have to wait several months.
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REALLY? So you're trying to say that a magic potion in a bottle can instantly convert ammonia from fish into the proper bacterial colonies that help convert each form of bacteria to the next eventually into something less harmful to the fish? Sounds a lot like advanced genetics to me. So a process that can take about a month can be done in a week with an enhancer like Cycle? Howcome they don't have chemicals that speed up human growth rate so we can skip our baby stages? Think about what you are saying...

A fishless cycle only takes a month roughly. You add ammonia to the tank. Bacteria that can break it down starts to grow from it. It gets broken down into something harmful to fish, then eventually into something less harmful to fish. Eventually more colonies grow so this process goes faster and faster, eventually keeping up with the bioload in the tank.

People who have to wait 'several months' generally do a fish in cycle. When you do a fish in cycle, the same process occurs as a regular fish in cycle. The problem is the ammonia the fish put out is not being broken down fast enough because the tank is just starting to establish itself, thus making it harmful to the fish. To compensate for this and to keep the fish alive frequent water changes must be performed. The water changes relieve the ammonia/nitrate/nitrite count in the tank, but at the same time slow down the cycle process putting the tank that is currently 'cycling' into another mini-cycle, however these water changes are necessary or the fish will likely die as the tank cycles on.

In regards to water changes, it should be done weekly at a % relevant to the bioload in your tank.
 

CoryGuru

CoryGuru

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Jun 1, 2009
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jo3olous said:
REALLY? So you're trying to say that a magic potion in a bottle can instantly convert ammonia from fish into the proper bacterial colonies that help convert each form of bacteria to the next eventually into something less harmful to the fish? Sounds a lot like advanced genetics to me. So a process that can take about a month can be done in a week with an enhancer like Cycle? Howcome they don't have chemicals that speed up human growth rate so we can skip our baby stages? Think about what you are saying...

A fishless cycle only takes a month roughly. You add ammonia to the tank. Bacteria that can break it down starts to grow from it. It gets broken down into something harmful to fish, then eventually into something less harmful to fish. Eventually more colonies grow so this process goes faster and faster, eventually keeping up with the bioload in the tank.

People who have to wait 'several months' generally do a fish in cycle. When you do a fish in cycle, the same process occurs as a regular fish in cycle. The problem is the ammonia the fish put out is not being broken down fast enough because the tank is just starting to establish itself, thus making it harmful to the fish. To compensate for this and to keep the fish alive frequent water changes must be performed. The water changes relieve the ammonia/nitrate/nitrite count in the tank, but at the same time slow down the cycle process putting the tank that is currently 'cycling' into another mini-cycle, however these water changes are necessary or the fish will likely die as the tank cycles on.

In regards to water changes, it should be done weekly at a % relevant to the bioload in your tank.
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No its not Dark Magic Miss Sarcasm. Maybe if you had tried it correctly, and had the patience to follow the instructions, you would've had some success. But if some behind-the-times simpletons would prefer to sit around like sea-snails, what do I care. How about next time you blog, decide to only offer your advice, instead of disregarding the advice of those who've actually tried a method.
 

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Ladyfishcat

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May 31, 2009
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HAHAHHAHAHAHHHAAH
Yo Guru, were you from you take it all so personally. haha:D

it is true that the cycling will take long and that you DO have
to wait like a dead snail for a couple weeks, but if you are
serious about fishkeeping then you shouldnt have a prob. wiht
waiting a little bit.
:D

Mr. Jo3lous makes a GREAT point by explaining to you the
process of cycling, maybe if you read what he is saying you
would understand :D

ahahah
this started wiht yellow but ended up nicely :D
 

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Monoxide

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Dec 19, 2008
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I never tried this kind of product that Guru spoke of. But it probably goes with other things I have said before. People made this washy products for fishkeepers that dont know or the fishkeeper that wants to do something quick cause something is wrong(so Ill go buy this product) Like you can get 4-5 things at my store here that says fixes and makes amonia go away instantly (and some dont even say do water changes afterwards). So i buy a product for 10 bucks poor in few cap fulls.. Let it sit in the tank and few days later my fish are now sick or dead cause no water changes and some random product was added. Finally just do the cycling its all worth it in the end.
 

CoryGuru

CoryGuru

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Jun 1, 2009
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Who says I don't also do water changes? You're jumping to conclusions. & he decided to be sarcastic, I was just recommending something that happended to work for me.
 

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