need advice on removing wallpaper from existing tank (with fish+plants)

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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I want to remove the wallpaper in my tank, it makes tank look v v tacky , its hiding all the asthetics created by plants that i have put there, its very hard to distinguish the real-plants from plants in background and basically i dont like this wallpaper, it came along with the fish-tank which the seller gave me at v v cheap-rate.

Now to test, i have removed a 1-inch strip at top of tank to see will it come off or not, it came off quite easily, now i see glue like thing on glass , is this harmful for fish? how to remove it ? is there a trick here for me to remove entire wallpaper? or will i have to resort to remove water +fish temporarily from the tank to remove this wallpaper + some glue residue ?
 

Feb 27, 2009
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I would drain the tank to do it then, if it were me. I would fear the glue residue would harm the fish. I've never heard of gluing wallpaper INSIDE a tank. Is that a common practice in India?

Nice to meet you, anshuman. One of the fish I breed came from India originally.
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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yea, i will pick another weekend i guess for this. I will empty the tank by collecting water in some other bucket and pull that wallpaper off, then will use wilkinson blade (simple blade ) to scrape off the glue residue . then refill tank.

I already have my hands full to see is this tank properly cycling or not.

And no its not common practice , this idiotic shop that i dealt with, did this and i see he does it to each of his tanks, the big shops i see in main part of bombay , keep wallpaper outside of tank.

Thanks for replying OrangeCones :)
 

Newman

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Sep 22, 2009
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thats just downright weird 0_0
make sure you punch that tank's owner in the face for me lol.
if it was "glued" with aquarium safe cilicone then that'd be better, but still...who the **** puts the background INTO the tank? (aside from moss walls and DIY cement backgrounds)
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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people in my home are against removing this background, can you guys please suggest, remove or keep?


YouTube - Fish-tank with wallpaper




the background wallpaper is camflouging the plants i have planted :( thats why i dont want it. And if i remove this and it looks horrible, i am ready to get black background and put it again but this time outside the tank .

What do you think ?
 

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I would agree with you, anshuman, the plants you have do not stand out with the backdrop you have now. Is it a coral reef picture (salt-water)? I think a solid background would allow you to show off the plants more.
 

JRB__

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Oct 24, 2009
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yess its some big coral-reef in background, just doesnt go with theme i have in tank. :(
Hey,
Definately doesn't match, its salt-water, your keeping freshwater :p
Even if it isn't harming the fish in the tank at the moment I wouldn't trust the glue, and the background for that matter, to not start breaking down after being submerged for a long period of time. The people in your house will like it once you've changed it for a more appropriate themed background and its on the OUTSIDE of the tank ;)
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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thanks. i will be carefully emptying it ,drying the wall first, then remove wallpaper. then scrap off glue and collect it properly on paper. then clean again, then refill it back.

Bucketss O bucketsss!!!!.... here i cooommmeee!!!!
 

Newman

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Sep 22, 2009
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be sure to let your filter media soak in tank water while youre doing this.. you dont want it to dry out. also be sure to leave some water so the gravel keeps moist. all this is to preserve the bacteria that lives there.
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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oh yes, thats what i am planning to do , just keep it hanging on top of bucket running on, the bubbles have nice calming effect on goldies ( as i have noticed during past changes). if the water is still and there are loud thuds near the bucket or something , they keep getting really startled, then stay stressed even after transfer back to tank.

:)
 

JRB__

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Oct 24, 2009
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Hey anshuman,
Just noticed you are thinkin bout adding more fish to your 28g with your goldies. I'd be careful doing that, your already overstocked. If you want to still, you might want to upgrade your little filter to a canister or something.
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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I am not really stressing about adding fish now, i want to see the tank go through atleast 2-3 month then i will decide what to add , if the tank + plants + fish stay well. its hardly nearing to month of first-cycle.

I have Boyu Powerhead SP1000 : Read reviews and compare prices at Ciao.co.uk , i now realize this is not enough for current setup, What filter should i add ? i know you might have seen i have another filter, its small local-made filter with fiber-cotton sponge like thing, it have to take that sponge out once it starts going blackish etc.

In my local shops i have seen tetra wishper filters cannisters and ehiem brand things.

What do you suggest i should add? i want something really silent.

Is there something i can simply replace while upgrading this current boyu 1000 ? what i am thinking is , adding another filter/cannister thing , run both of this for a month , then simply take out this boyu powerhead and keep it in another small tank in water (so the bacteria wont die) and let that be my emmergency stand-by for just_in_case times. so what will be idle filter ?
 

JRB__

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Oct 24, 2009
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I am not really stressing about adding fish now, i want to see the tank go through atleast 2-3 month then i will decide what to add , if the tank + plants + fish stay well. its hardly nearing to month of first-cycle.
Good idea.

I have Boyu Powerhead SP1000 : Read reviews and compare prices at Ciao.co.uk , i now realize this is not enough for current setup, What filter should i add ?
Theres LOTS of filters you can choose from, a canister is good for a heavily stocked tank as it hold lots of media and so it can therefore accomodate much larger good bacterial colonies when compared to most submergable and hang-on filters.

i know you might have seen i have another filter, its small local-made filter with fiber-cotton sponge like thing, it have to take that sponge out once it starts going blackish etc.
Yeh I saw the filter in the picture you posted, I haven't seen one of those kinds of filters since I was a kid, like 12 years. I'm guessing they aren't around much anymore cause they aren't very effective.

In my local shops i have seen tetra wishper filters cannisters and ehiem brand things.
Eheim is a very good brand IMO.
I run 2 Eheim classic 2215's on my larger tanks, a Hang-on filter on my 20g, a submergable + twin sponge filter on my shrimp tank and a large sponge filter in my fry tank. Its up to you what you go with..

What do you suggest i should add? i want something really silent.
If primed correctly most cannisters run fairly quietly.
Hang-on's make a trickling noise but you can stop it by raising the water level to the outlet of the filter. You'll never get a 100% silence from a filter without paying ALOT of money, putting it inside a cabinet can help make it near silent.

Is there something i can simply replace while upgrading this current boyu 1000 ? what i am thinking is , adding another filter/cannister thing , run both of this for a month , then simply take out this boyu powerhead and keep it in another small tank in water (so the bacteria wont die) and let that be my emmergency stand-by for just_in_case times. so what will be idle filter ?
When you get the new filter, add it to the tank but don't remove any other filter yet, let it run for 4-6 weeks for a cannister 2-3 weeks for most other filters. *times are a rough guide
When you remove the other filter, constantly monitor levels for a week or so to see if you have any big spikes in ammonia or nitrites, if you do, return the old filter and wait longer.
Also if you want to keep the bacteria alive in the old filter you'll not only need to put it in another tank, like you plan on doing, but the bacteria will need a constant supply of ammonia to stay alive, your goldies are currently feeding them.
 

anshuman

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Nov 16, 2009
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Also if you want to keep the bacteria alive in the old filter you'll not only need to put it in another tank, like you plan on doing, but the bacteria will need a constant supply of ammonia to stay alive, your goldies are currently feeding them.
how bout i get good size male fighter in that 2.5 gallon bowl ? and keep this boyu filter in water? will that go well? ( i may not run the boyu filter as it will simply turn the fighter upside down whole time, it will turn whole thing into washing machine ).
 

JRB__

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Oct 24, 2009
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how bout i get good size male fighter in that 2.5 gallon bowl ? and keep this boyu filter in water? will that go well? ( i may not run the boyu filter as it will simply turn the fighter upside down whole time, it will turn whole thing into washing machine ).
The boyu pumps 550 litres per hour, way to much for a 2.5g... you said it, it'd be a washing machine. Also the boyu is only a powerhead, what kind of filtration is it connected to? that little cotton filled box?