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Fish in. Philbert came out to push her around. She really didn't back down much, but still let him win. She seems preoccupied with pressing her dominance over the bubbler now. Can fish choke to death by attacking the bubbles?
Comparatively between the GBR, the bolivian bodies are more cory-shaped and seem to go to the bottom more often.
I may end up moving philbert if he keeps this crap up.
Fish in. Philbert came out to push her around. She really didn't back down much, but still let him win. She seems preoccupied with pressing her dominance over the bubbler now. Can fish choke to death by attacking the bubbles?
Comparatively between the GBR, the bolivian bodies are more cory-shaped and seem to go to the bottom more often.
I may end up moving philbert if he keeps this crap up.
bass, you said the bacteria are everywhere, but they are aquatic. where do they come from in a brand new tank? tap water seems somewhat reasonable but why would they live among chlorine? remember theyre aquatic, so it would make sense if they were on surfaces of things in the tank when these surfaces had been dry. so where? -__- I have been wondering this thing as well(i am sure a little research can answer my question, but I am lazy).
It would make more sense if someone takes some wet leaves from their backyard and rinses them off in their tank lol, or takes something from a local pond or river and puts that in the tank, those might be viable sources, but say people dont do that?
It would make more sense if someone takes some wet leaves from their backyard and rinses them off in their tank lol, or takes something from a local pond or river and puts that in the tank, those might be viable sources, but say people dont do that?
When I took college biology last year, out instructor said that all kinds of bacteria are everywhere, but that they are inert until the proper catalyst is present. I would think they're present in tap water as well, just inert until that catalyst is present (in the case of aquatic beneficial bacteria that would be ammonia and nitrite). When you say "why would they live among chlorine," well, I kind of already answered that question...they're inert, so therefore they aren't "alive" when they are with the chlorine, so it doesn't harm them. Does that make sense?
Like I said in my post #347 these "nitrifying bacteria" are not only aquatic, they are all over. I wish I could find something I read about the different bacteria that were recently found in the aquatic system, but at the time it didn't seem important to me. I did find the following statement: "Most bacteria can form a resting spore with thick polysaccharide coat. In this form they can survive extreme heat, cold and dessication for long periods." This is one of the things they discovered when they reflooded the Nisqually Delta after decades.
There are bacteria that are not aquatic that are found in a lot of the cycling assistance products on the market, however. One that comes to mind is the product "Cycle." I have read numerous instances of people using Cycle, then if they stop using the product or miss a dosage, their tank crashes hard. That would say to me that the bacteria found in the product cannot survive for longer periods of time (more than a week) in an aquatic environment, so cannot be truly considered an aquatic bacteria.
bass I've used Cycle on my 40 gallon back when i first converted it from goldfish ornamental to my planted setup. I think if i remember correctly, i used it because i had some traces of ammonia? no wait it was because we recently changed the filter and everything in it, thats why. anyway I used that product, over the course of a few weeks the whole bottle, and when I stopped....................nothing happened lol my tank remained cycled.
Yes the inert states, the dormant spore, make sense. though the bacteria in the soil that do the nitrification are probably different than the ones in water all the time. but if this is not true, this does explain why you can get a tank cycled by adding some stuff from your yard like a few leaves to provide your source of bacteria.
the argument that bacteria are everywhere looks like a good way to look at it. chances are the ones needed in the tank are around somewhere and they eventually get into the tank and work.
Yes the inert states, the dormant spore, make sense. though the bacteria in the soil that do the nitrification are probably different than the ones in water all the time. but if this is not true, this does explain why you can get a tank cycled by adding some stuff from your yard like a few leaves to provide your source of bacteria.
the argument that bacteria are everywhere looks like a good way to look at it. chances are the ones needed in the tank are around somewhere and they eventually get into the tank and work.
Lol, I wasn't saying you guys. This is a totally legit discussion. Sorry if I didn't direct the sentiment better. I'm sure you've seen others though:
ZOMG NEVAR DO A FEESH IN CYCLEZ! BACTERIA INA BOTTLZ FAIL! AMMONIAZ 4 EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111one!
(Or the same, but TSS as the only option because it's "proven water-born" bacteria.)
Similar random announcement to Paige's: My youngest of two mollies was flexing his peni...er...gondopodium today. So I definitely have a boy and a girl. Looks like I'll be buying me another girl molly soon.
ZOMG NEVAR DO A FEESH IN CYCLEZ! BACTERIA INA BOTTLZ FAIL! AMMONIAZ 4 EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111one!
(Or the same, but TSS as the only option because it's "proven water-born" bacteria.)
Similar random announcement to Paige's: My youngest of two mollies was flexing his peni...er...gondopodium today. So I definitely have a boy and a girl. Looks like I'll be buying me another girl molly soon.