goodby Albert kitty

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Firebug

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Sorry to hear of your loss. I think you could have dealt with it better, but that's just my opinion, plus I don't know all the details..

Fuzz, that's a bit extreme..A pet is a pet, yes they are companions, and some people consider them family members, but it isn't even close to a human being. We are superior to animals; therefore comparing an illness/injury that your cat has to an illness/injury that your mother has is like..comparing a flea to a tiger.
Take into consideration that perhaps they didn't have the money to take it to the vet. Or no facility near or open at the time. Sorry, but if I had to choose between killing my pet or having to be in debt for the rest of my life because of the costs of procedures and etc., I would put it down (not myself, but in a more humane way). It would also relieve the animal sooner of pain (and from the sounds of it..it indeed was in tremendous pain).

This member probably feels bad enough as it is, why hammer him/her further? Low..Grow up.
 

scubadude

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to those who have been offended. am i to believe that i should have let him suffer through the night unable to walk and making noises like he was being skinned alive? suppose if by some miricle he made it through the night? then he could suffer some more in a strange place with strange people and prob still die. understand that 45 min after we knew he was sick he could no longer walk and was suffering terribly. and yes we called 2 diffrent vets that felt that if he was deteriorating that quickly there was poor chance of him making it through the night. as far as our methods, i personally don't think that pumping his veins with poison is anymore humane than a bullet in the brain. quick and painless. sorry i wasn't shelfish enough for his company to let him die a slow agaonizing death.
Thank you to those who offered their sympathys.
 

FishGeek

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So being superior allows us to kill other living things for the fun of it. Now some of you may read this and think...she hunts wants she talking about. Well I hunt but I eat what I kill and what I dont eat I leave for wild animals to eat, so nothing it wasted. I have nothing wrong with hunting, but I DO NOT like it when people abuse it. And I think that if you can take your animal out and shoot it in the head because its sick that you are a coward. I, as well as many others chose to have animals in my life and it is my responsibilty to care and provide them with anything and everything they need to be happy and healthy. If you think that you are too superior to do this then you are a sick person.

subadude, your cat had a treatable problem. Yes you should have waited till morning and get him to the vet ASAP. I dont know about there but I know here there are at lest 3 vets that I can think of that are availble after hours. 1 of them being an emergeny vet and another being a vet that closes and the doctors are on call all night. Out of curiousity did your cat even have his shots??
 

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Firebug

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FishGeek said:
So being superior allows us to kill other living things for the fun of it.
Well..I suppose if you want to go hunting. That's what animals were put on this earth for. We are superior, so we have the right to dominate over them, whether that means using them for tasks or killing them for food. As for pets, we are obliged to take care of them. That doesn't mean we have to go spending loads of money to keep them well or go distant places to get care for them (such as in Scuba's situation).They're just animals
FishGeek said:
And I think that if you can take your animal out and shoot it in the head because its sick that you are a coward.
If you only knew..It's not necessarily a cowardly act. It could be, but it could also be the more HUMANE (is the word noticable enough?) option that you could have.
FishGeek said:
I, as well as many others chose to have animals in my life and it is my responsibilty to care and provide them with anything and everything they need to be happy and healthy. If you think that you are too superior to do this then you are a sick person.
Good for you. Some people don't have the facilities or money to take as good care of their pets as you might. They do the best they can. I don't see how it is sick to put oneself before their pets. If you ask me, it sounds more sane than anything.
 

angelmom

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Firebug said:
Take into consideration that perhaps they didn't have the money to take it to the vet. Or no facility near or open at the time. Sorry, but if I had to choose between killing my pet or having to be in debt for the rest of my life because of the costs of procedures and etc., I would put it down (not myself, but in a more humane way). It would also relieve the animal sooner of pain (and from the sounds of it..it indeed was in tremendous pain).
If you choose to have a pet then you choose to pay what ever bills come your way. If you don't have money for vet bills then don't have pets.(is the sentience noticeable enough?)

I'm personally paying a vet bill for my dog that I had to have put down 3 years ago because their was nothing more they could do for her...Nothing. She was suffering and why make her suffer. My bill was through the roof but I'm still did everything I could do until I couldn't do anymore.

Like I said way back. My cat was very sick, couldn't eat, drink or go to the bathroom. There is a problem with her kidneys but I took her to the vet when I'm really short on money...and with meds she is doing better as a matter of fact she is back to how she was before she got sick. It was a rough 2 weeks waiting it out to see what would come of it but she is better BECAUSE I TOOK HER TO THE VET LIKE A PET OWNER SHOULD. Luckily this bill was only $200 not like my dogs bill but I would have payed for it if I had to.

I do not mean this to be directed to scubadude but this is how I feel. My pets are my kids just as much as my daughter is and I would get all the medical treatment I could for my daughter. The only unfortunate thing I see between people and animals is that when an animal is truly suffering we can end the suffering for them unlike we can do for people.

On a side note Jess I'm sure scubadude didn't kill his cat for the fun of it. I don't like what he did (or how he did it) any more than you do but I'm sure it was a hard decision for him too...(I would hope anyway).
 

VirgoWolf

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I promised myself I would keep from posting in this thread, but I am just curious...

Firebug said:
Sorry, but if I had to choose between killing my pet or having to be in debt for the rest of my life because of the costs of procedures and etc., I would put it down (not myself, but in a more humane way).

Really??? See money means nothing to me, but my animals are my kids. I would jump in front of a bus to save one of my pets. Worst come to worst, I would ask for donations to help, or adopt the animal out to someone willing to help, or be broke forever, oh well, broke and happy I guess. I just can't see how anyone can put money, time, convenience, anything ... above a pets needs. They solely depend on you and love you no matter what, their lives litterally depend on you and it's not like they chose it to be that way, you conciously chose to put their life in your hands, therefore it is your responsibility to take care of them, by all means necessary.

I know we are "superior" to animals, I see how that makes it OK to hunt if you are going to eat what you kill, but there is a differance from wild animals and domesticated ones. These animals can't fend for themselves, humans have spent many generations draining the wild out of these animals so that they can co-exist with us as a family. This alone makes me feel even more responsible for making sure they never have to worry about fending for themselves, they always have food and water, they always have a warm place to sleep, they always have something to do, and they are always as safe as I can make them (including vetrinary care, lack of preditors and disease, etc...). If I do not have the means to provide these things for an animal, I just won't get one, period.
 

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f8fan

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VirgoWolf said:
.... but there is a differance from wild animals and domesticated ones. These animals can't fend for themselves, humans have spent many generations draining the wild out of these animals so that they can co-exist with us as a family. This alone makes me feel even more responsible for making sure they never have to worry about fending for themselves, they always have food and water, they always have a warm place to sleep, they always have something to do, and they are always as safe as I can make them (including vetrinary care, lack of preditors and disease, etc...). If I do not have the means to provide these things for an animal, I just won't get one, period.
...what she said. (Is making her quote in bold noticeable enough???) I can't bring myself to type anything gracious or well-mannered with some of the latest views here.:mad:
 

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scubadude

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truth be told, i didn't pull the trigger. Katricias father did it. i wanted to be there to comfort Albert in his final moments, but felt that comforting Katricia at the time was more important. he was really her kitty. Alberts mom got run over after he was born and Katricia rescued him from starvation. we botttle fed him back to health. i feel guilty for not being there for him, but Katricia needed me right then and i felt that her broken heart was more important to tend to at the time.

i don't know what the hell you people are talking about when you post the feeling of "superiority" crap. i felt more helpless than than i can remember feeling before. perhaps you people get this feeling of superiority by sitting behind your keyboard and judging others? Hmmmmm......

you can keep your spite and hatefullness to yourselves.

I would like to request that a mod close this thread before it is tainted with anymore judgemental bigatry. there has already been threat related statements and childish namecalling, and i doubt that this is what the obituary forum was created for.

I would like to give one final sincere thank you to those who offered their sympathy.
 

JWright

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This thread has gone well beyond the point of being helpful.

scubadude clearly cared a great deal for his cat, and felt he was doing the best thing for it. A gunshot wound to the head is a very humane way to die, IMO. Having seen how quickly a significant trauma to the head can kill a human, I doubt the cat suffered. I also suspect that had he known what he knows now it probably would have been handled differently. Hindsight is 20-20, and some folks here would do well to remember that...

Frankly, I'm appalled at the lack of caring demonstrated in this thread....
 

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