Holding cyp!

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unfortunate about the lose of eggs.

i think that normally cyp fry will swim down to the bottom of the tank once their released and hide untill they get i bigger, but i guess that is multie territory so the breeding net idea is proably the best solution.
 

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I'm going to pick this one up just in case. :) Although I have read theres not enough waterflow inside the net to keep the mother in there but it's perfect for the fry. I also saw where someone replaced the netting with window screen and the flow was much better.

The Net Breeder is ideal as a maturation tank for fry. In addition, it can also be used to isolate injured or aggressive fish. The Net Breeder features our new frame style with removable, locking legs and a fine nylon mesh net. It was engineered to allow optimum water flow that furnishes oxygen and fresh water to the fry. It attaches to the side of the aquarium with bendable metal hangers.
 

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Unfortunate yes. But a way of life none the less.

I've had that kind of breeding net before, and honestly it wasn't that well made. It came apart easily and after a year the plastic became very britle and broke. I've decided to by-pass a breeder net altogeather and get a tank divider. This will ensure that the cyps have the maximum swimming space, and every one is apart from the other. Not that I've ever seen a multie cause damage to another fish, I'm sure they could easily pick off fry if they wanted too. I need to go to the LFS anyway to get rid of some N. brichardi. lol By the time I went to lowes to get the nylon window screen and used the gas, it would be cheaper for me to just run down the road and buy one. My luck they won't have one for a 20H. lol
 

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Keep forgeting to grab the camera. *ALL* Soon I promise .

Thanks C-man08. I still can't belive that they have done this so soon after getting them. I moved the female furthest along to a nursery tank yesterday. I had it setup with some multies and a tank divider, but the multies were very curious about the lone cyp, and I was afraid that if she released that some would get to the other side and the multies would make short work of them. So I moved the multies out and she has the tank to her self.

I had never been more nervous than when I caught her in the main tank. I was about as close to running around like a chicken as I have been in a LONG time. lol. So far so good though. It seemed to be much more stressfull on me than the female in moving her! lol
 

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atleast everythings still going smoothly(-ish) :). How did you go about catching you multies, i always had trouble with mine, in the end i used the scare them into their shells and move the whole shell technique, but even then i somehow managed to miss some of the fry :p.
 

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Shellies have been the most easy fish to catch ever. Hey, they come with there own carring case! lol

I've always just moved them shell and all.

Funny you mentioned missing some fry, because I'm pretty sure that I missed one multie fry whos still over in the 20 gallon. lol
 

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Ok, I should remember to grab the camera tonight, cause I'm gonna need it.

She released a sinlge fry. I just can't belive how huge that thing is! And to think she's still got more of these in her mouth, gezz. Its atleast 1/2inch TL. Wow. It looks just like the adults, just smaller and no color. lol

It's very well developed, so I'll suck it up and will most likley get the rest later tonight.
 

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Who's ready?

I decided to go ahead and let the female spit the rest of the fry. Wasn't hard at all, and very awesome to watch.

As I was tring to net her, she spit one in the tank. Once in the net she spit another, and two more when I just lifted her out of the water. Easy enough! :)

I've got 5 of these little guys. So far all doing well and schooling togeather.







And this is one of my kribs I'm growing out, just thought I'd toss it up too

 

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From someone that is not familiar with this type fish, what exactly is it called. That is so awesome that you have the fry. I want to try cichlids one day and enjoy reading the posts in this forum.
 

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wow thats cool, i bet the mum must be hungry, cos i guess she hasnt been at all through the mouth brooding stage.

etres- these fish are from a family of fishes known as cyprichromis, or cyps. They are the only true schooling cichlids and come from lake tanganyika. There are many different species such as 'Blue flash', orion has a species known as 'Utina' :).
 

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Thanks everyone.

She ate a little bit of flake though out her term. More once the eggs hatched, presumably to feed the fry. I still can't get over how BIG those are.

Just to help clairfy, 'Blue Flash' and 'Utinta' are just titles to help identify a particular collection point or color variation.;) The full species name is Cyprichromis leptosoma. There are a few more species of cyps, but leptosoma is one of the smaller ones.

This has been an interesting thread Starting from the begining to the end of the incubation period. I'm glad I did this. So this started on the 7th, and ended on the 25th. 20 days in total.
 

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oops, my bad. so 'blue flash' and 'untina' are varieties of the same fish, not different species.

yes this really has been a great thread to follow and very informative, great job *thumbsups
 

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Your right on Phooey! It can get pretty confusing. The Jumbo cyps do not yet have a species name of their own, so often times you will find them listed as Cyprichromis leptosoma 'tricolor' ect... or just Cyprichromis sp. 'tricolor'... and on and on. The tricolor's are not the only one, but just an example.

Well, one cyp fry is MIA, and one is dead. Little sad yes, but my other holding female's eggs are starting to hatch, so I'm sure there will not be a large shortage of fry for long. :)

Ship water? Hmm, I don't know it just doesn't sound very economical to me. lol
 

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Zero made it. Don't know what happend. Two were dead on tuesday, two yeasterday, and I found the remaing one dead this morning. The water test's came back good, 0 ammonia, 0 nitrItes, <5 nitrAtes. The pH, kH and GH are still the same as the 75 gallon. I just don't know.

My only idea is that when the mother begrudgeingly released them, she hurt them tring to suck them back into her mouth. I have nothing to prove this, but the only thing I really have to go on.

It happens, a good life leson none the less. All I can do now is take what I've learned here and apply it to future spawns. That, and a whole lot more research into rearing the fy. :)