Ok so... here goes...
First off my bestfriend has a gorgeous 55g tank in the living room in her house.. mostly goldies, there are 2 koi and 2 shubunkins, and i think 2 goldfish (one is about 6in and the other maybe 3). Anyway everytime I go to her house I zone out in awe at the incredible colors and beauty of these fish...
which inspired me to get a tank...
for about 3-4 months i was planning and i already had a 10g all i needed was the lid and filter and air pump...
anyway my little brothers and i went to a carnival one night and won 4 feeder goldfish..i left them in their original water and put a small amount of tap water in a large fish bowl and called it good temporarily (the feeder fish were maybe an inch at best) by morning 2 were dead... that night was pay day so i went and bought all the goodies for tank setup.. got home set up the tank added some Start Right and got the bubbles going.. still keeping Ricardo and Nacho (my fish) in their original carnival tank water dumped them into the tank..
Note: I read all day at work friday pages and pages of info.. they all said fish need certain bacteria in the water.. so keeping them in their previous water was a way to help "seed" the tank.
now i read the 1in to 1 gallon of water rule and know that does not apply to growing fish however i thought as a starter the carnival fish would suffice if they survived for me to learn on.. again i know they are already over stocked in a 10g...
After the tank was set up and running my lil guys were scmpering around beautifully and i was loving the look.. a few plants and a house for them to hide and play and a large (approx 3-4 in) bubble stone for a curtain of bubblage..
after that night all was well my friend told me to take home another fish from her tank a small goldfish (approx 2 in) to be a "momma" fish to the little guys... so now in my 10g i have a 2 in and 2 1in goldies.. all were fine till a day or so ago.. the little ones are fine still the larger was laying in behind the bubble stone very lethargic and not really into eating.. he came out and ate once food had rested on the bottom i saw him picking at the gravel..
yesterday again same ordeal..
today i come home and see my little guys have what appears to be ick on their tails.. now as i mentioned i practically lived at my friends last summer.. so i dealt with helping her diagnose fin rott and ick in her tank 2 or 3 times.. she happened to buy fish from a store that everytime she added fish to her tank they got ick...
now as i sit here i wonder.. not so much of did the store give her fish ick or is ick prominent in her tank and the others have become immune to its effects.. because my thoughts at the moment are that the new fish she brings home are healthy and being added to an icked envirnoment and the stress level rises with a new home and all the new fish... and therefore springs the outbreak.. (sorry that was an off subject tangent)
anyway they larger fish (from her) is as i said very depressed looking laying around the bottom.. whereas the smaller are zooming around perky.. but the larger fish shows not spots... only the little guys (proving my point about the ick in her tank) my fish were fine until i added the new guy and BANG.. ICK...
now 2 things..
1 i should have kept him in a "hospital" tank for a bit to be sure and 2 it is an over stocked tank...
but how can i solve this??
at the moment i read all the posts on goldfish and ick i could find here and opted with the rising of the temp (around 85) and added 3 tbsp of salt.. (i added 1 tbsp when i started the tank) so all together there is 4 tbsp in a 10g and the temp is up...
any other ideas would be awesome.. and as i said.. backhanding is welcomed and expected...
thanx...
<3 bree
First off my bestfriend has a gorgeous 55g tank in the living room in her house.. mostly goldies, there are 2 koi and 2 shubunkins, and i think 2 goldfish (one is about 6in and the other maybe 3). Anyway everytime I go to her house I zone out in awe at the incredible colors and beauty of these fish...
which inspired me to get a tank...
for about 3-4 months i was planning and i already had a 10g all i needed was the lid and filter and air pump...
anyway my little brothers and i went to a carnival one night and won 4 feeder goldfish..i left them in their original water and put a small amount of tap water in a large fish bowl and called it good temporarily (the feeder fish were maybe an inch at best) by morning 2 were dead... that night was pay day so i went and bought all the goodies for tank setup.. got home set up the tank added some Start Right and got the bubbles going.. still keeping Ricardo and Nacho (my fish) in their original carnival tank water dumped them into the tank..
Note: I read all day at work friday pages and pages of info.. they all said fish need certain bacteria in the water.. so keeping them in their previous water was a way to help "seed" the tank.
now i read the 1in to 1 gallon of water rule and know that does not apply to growing fish however i thought as a starter the carnival fish would suffice if they survived for me to learn on.. again i know they are already over stocked in a 10g...
After the tank was set up and running my lil guys were scmpering around beautifully and i was loving the look.. a few plants and a house for them to hide and play and a large (approx 3-4 in) bubble stone for a curtain of bubblage..
after that night all was well my friend told me to take home another fish from her tank a small goldfish (approx 2 in) to be a "momma" fish to the little guys... so now in my 10g i have a 2 in and 2 1in goldies.. all were fine till a day or so ago.. the little ones are fine still the larger was laying in behind the bubble stone very lethargic and not really into eating.. he came out and ate once food had rested on the bottom i saw him picking at the gravel..
yesterday again same ordeal..
today i come home and see my little guys have what appears to be ick on their tails.. now as i mentioned i practically lived at my friends last summer.. so i dealt with helping her diagnose fin rott and ick in her tank 2 or 3 times.. she happened to buy fish from a store that everytime she added fish to her tank they got ick...
now as i sit here i wonder.. not so much of did the store give her fish ick or is ick prominent in her tank and the others have become immune to its effects.. because my thoughts at the moment are that the new fish she brings home are healthy and being added to an icked envirnoment and the stress level rises with a new home and all the new fish... and therefore springs the outbreak.. (sorry that was an off subject tangent)
anyway they larger fish (from her) is as i said very depressed looking laying around the bottom.. whereas the smaller are zooming around perky.. but the larger fish shows not spots... only the little guys (proving my point about the ick in her tank) my fish were fine until i added the new guy and BANG.. ICK...
now 2 things..
1 i should have kept him in a "hospital" tank for a bit to be sure and 2 it is an over stocked tank...
but how can i solve this??
at the moment i read all the posts on goldfish and ick i could find here and opted with the rising of the temp (around 85) and added 3 tbsp of salt.. (i added 1 tbsp when i started the tank) so all together there is 4 tbsp in a 10g and the temp is up...
any other ideas would be awesome.. and as i said.. backhanding is welcomed and expected...
thanx...
<3 bree