Malawi in 35gallon possible?

Helena21

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I have been looking a lake malawi fish on the internet and i really like the look of them, i realise i wouldnt be albe to get many if not any at all, but is a 35 ok for some species?

My water is hard-ish with pH at about 7.5

So is it possible?

EDIT:also what is the difference bewteen malawi and mbuna? malawi look more gentle and pretty
 

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Mbuna come from Malawi. Malawi cichlids refer to all of them out of Lake Malawi. Mbuna is more specific referring to the "rock fish" of the lake.

Yes its possible. There are acctually a few species of Mbuna that are "Dwarf" types and stay a little bit smaller. Two that come to mind are Pseudotropheus saulosi and Pseudotropheus demasoni.
 

Helena21

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Ok thanks, i looked them up on google images and found Pseudotropheus saulosi- the yellow fish and Pseudotropheus demasoni- the blue with darker blue stripes fish.
I like the look of them alot.
How many of each could i do in a 35?
and are they very agressive?
 

Big Vine

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Cool...I'm excited for you with this setup, Helena.
Looks like you'll be replacing the mish-mash of fish you've got in there with something that will really keep you (ahem......and us!) entertained. ;)

BV
 

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Also (just asking for helena) Is it possible to keep them using the stock internal filter (the jewel one) because i have a friend who keeps them and runs 3 external eheim filters and tells me there are very messy ?

Guysy
 

Helena21

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LOL BV, dont get too excited, i might not even do it im just thinking about it

also the Pseudotropheus demasoni seem to be very agressive, is there any other species?

Kaite, what is a Polit?
 

Katie217

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Labs would be great in the 35. I would also try to mix a blue type of mbuna in there...like...well im not sure how big afras get, but those would look great
 

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Yes you could do labs. Though they wouldn't be my personal choice.

Helena21 said:
Ok thanks, i looked them up on google images and found Pseudotropheus saulosi- the yellow fish and Pseudotropheus demasoni- the blue with darker blue stripes fish.
I like the look of them alot.
How many of each could i do in a 35?
and are they very agressive?
The male Salousi are acctually blue sorta like the demasoni while the females stay yellow...quite attractive with a breeding group in the tank. Good contrast.

If anything i'd do a species tank. But thats my personal preference.
 

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Helena21

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i think a species tank would be best too.
What would be the best ones for a species tank

BTW:sorry for all these stupid questions i dont know much about cichlids apart from rams, kribs etc
 

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Honestly, labs are the more peaceful mbuna, but IMO they get too large for a 35gal tank. If you're stuck on mbuna, I'd stick with a species tank.

If you want to go the demasoni route (which make for a gorgeous tank, btw...I have a colony in my 33gal), absolutely no less than 12. They are very aggressive and anything less than a group of this size will likely end up with just one dominant fish left after he's killed everyone off.

As for the saulosi, I'd say 2 males with anywhere from 5-8 females.

Polits are great, but also very nasty and harder to find...plus, quite expensive. If you go that route, maybe 2 males (have to try it, you very likely won't be able to have more than 1 in a smaller tank), with at least 5 or 6 females (or 3-4 if you have 1 male).

There are a ton of different Cynotilapia afra varients, most of which are blue-ish with barring. Very pretty group of fish overall. They are some of the smaller mbuna, so the same thing would apply...1, maybe 2 males if you're lucky, with 4-6 females.

Honestly, if you want a colourful tank, do either the demasoni or the saulosi. The females of the polits and afras are very dull, mostly brown. Only the males are really colourful, and typically only one dominant male at that. The dems are the same colour for both sexes, and the saulosi have blue males (very similar to the dems) with yellow females - they make for a very stunning species tank. The saulosi are my personal recommendation in your case - they're not as aggressive as the dems, a species tank looks great with them, and they're going to be much cheaper than the demasoni.

Keep in mind with any of these guys you'll need to keep the pH up in the 7.6-8.5 area, very hard, with LOTS of rockwork providing caves and hiding spots for fish for it to be successful. Hope that helps.