Well, its doing ok now, I did a clean up of the undergravel, and I'm talking BLACK water, with the CRAP underneath the gravel and plastic. I've now, gone to one feeding a day, and even really dropped the amount of food I feed them then.
The pachu is kinda freaking, don't know if its because he is not getting as much food or what. But the water is staying clear, and I'm not having the problems like before. I'm guessing too many fish, to much food, combination of items.
I think its undercontrol now. I want to thank everyone for their help
p2kmon ;D