Pure, P.C., Guess what I stumbled into?

VirgoWolf

VirgoWolf

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Yeah, powerhead is a definite, I'll get a sponge filter too if it all works out well. :) I'm excited, I keep checking my E-mail waiting for his responses, of all times for yahoo to crap out on me and stop allerting me when I have mail. :(

I'm happy to hear I have a chance in keeping this little one alive, makes me feel better. :) Diet isn't much of a problem, I have TONS of blood worms, tube cubes, etc... I just need to figure out how to get them to sink before the other fish eat them all.
 

VirgoWolf

VirgoWolf

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LOL yeah I have shrimp pelets, need to get some new ones though, these ones have been around for a while. :) Only thing (besides algae wafers) that SINKS! LOL, I'll probably order some carnivore sinkers too.
 

Pure

Pure

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The problem is identification of all the species is still an ongoing job and isn't even a fraction of the way completed. Tossing hybrids into the mix will only confuse things worse.

Personally I don't have any issues with hybrids, if you know that's what they are. Trouble with plecs is there is so much speculation of "this L is that and that one is this" There would be really no way of knowing for sure what you have at this point.
 

Pure

Pure

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LOL it doesn't work that way. They can only hybridize within the species. Hypancistrus can mix with other Hyps. (they are all meat eaters) Ancistrus (bns) can mix with other BNs. So on and so forth. The 2 separate species can not intermix.

So far as I know all members of any given particular species tend to thrive on one set standard of diet. Carnivore, Omnivore, Vegetarian.
 

Pure

Pure

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In the wild yes, because they are normally sterile. But that's not 100% of the time. In our tanks where they are nurtured it's very possible to mix them and distribute them on to the market.
 

VirgoWolf

VirgoWolf

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Well FishLuvr, looks like you're headed south, no Zebra up here. Turns out it's a L270 (commonly called the Choclate Zebra or the Tapajos Zebra). (thanks for the help on this one pure)

The Emperor is a Flash Pleco, which makes me happy since I was going to shell out $40+ on one anyway at some point.

And the Queen is really a queen.

I was debating on which ones to get, but Pure says get all 3, so that I shall do! :) And the JD, gotta have Blue! LOL "Your my boy Blue!" :D
 

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VirgoWolf

VirgoWolf

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Hahahaha, sorry Jess, I publicly acknoledge your part in this, thank you for fetching pure for me and sending the pics over your (MUCH MUCH FASTER) non-dialup connection! :) Without you I'd still be sending him the pics! LOL
 

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wayne

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As far as hybridisation goes , it might be possible because a zebra and q arabesque are in the same genus but are different species. It would be tougher for it to mate with a bristlenose as they are from the genus ancistrus, and are more diverse genetically.
But don't take the genus/family split stopping hybridisation. Mbuna cichlids hybridise across families as they are not especially different at dna level whereas apistogramma are speciating so quickly, and altering their dna they rarely even hybridise ingenus

But don't confuse species with genus
 

Pure

Pure

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I wasn't confusing them. I was being very general so most people could understand what I was saying.

Most Ls can not scientifically be called a species due to them not being identified yet.

Since they have been discussed already we will look at Zebras and Queens. Zebras have been scientifically identified as Hypancistrus zebra so they can without a doubt and correctly be called a species. How ever Queens have not been scientifically identified. They are currently known as Hypancistrus sp (sp standing for species). Meaning they are not a species yet.

For this reason, when talking to people I find it much more easy to just say "species" vs Genus, then have to explain why they are not a species yet.
 

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