SAE or Fake?
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Yes, and it does not appear that what you bought has a stripe through to the very other end of the tail. Its hard to see in the pic
have you looked here?
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
have you looked here?
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
Just when I was going the other direction. I spent a great deal of time watching them tonight and none of them have the solid line end to end. All 4 stop at the tail. LFS said they were juveniles and that might be why markings weren't quite right. I wouldn't think it would matter that much. Besides, they're not that juvenile by my guess. Each is >1.5"
Here's a link to figure out exactly what you have: http://www.petresources.net/fish/article/sae.html
Here's our SAE:
Here's our SAE:
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Eco, after looking at yours I'm back to agreeing with Leo. No reticulation along the scales and the black stripe definately isn't like yours. Darn. It was a planned impulse buy. I was there and I knew I wouldn't get back anytime soon. I'd been looking for SAEs and gave in to the pressure which was self-induced. I did hesitate and then the guy, not the owner, was pretty insistant, but the way he phrased it ( I realize now!) was, "That's what the wholesaler sold 'em to us as." Not exactly an iron-clad stand.
What I'm seeing on your picture is that the stripe goes all the way through the eye to the nose (which it doesn't on some of the other "fake" ones) and that the fins are clear. Ours also has those slightly golden highlights on either side of the black stripe on the tail.
Of course, anyone can be wrong. If you notice him/her being aggressive, it's not an SAE. Ours are very peaceful, and will occasionally play with other fish, but not in a way that is chasing them at all. Also with behaviour, SAEs tend to space out and lie on a rock for a while, just chillin.
Of course, anyone can be wrong. If you notice him/her being aggressive, it's not an SAE. Ours are very peaceful, and will occasionally play with other fish, but not in a way that is chasing them at all. Also with behaviour, SAEs tend to space out and lie on a rock for a while, just chillin.
OK, after reading and looking at the illustrations from all of your links...I'm still not sure. The horizontal line to the nose is a big one and they have it. They also have clear fins. The reticulation is not great nor is the line through the tail.
Basically it is this according to the chart here.
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
Crossocheilus oblongus(Cuvier and Valenciennes, 1842)
This is a close relative to Siamese Algae Eater, and it is possible that specimens of this fish are sometimes found in schools of Siamese Algae Eater or "false siamensis".
Description: Body shape and color are basically same as Siamese Algae Eater and "false siamensis". All the fins are transparent and the black horizontal stripe does not extend to the tail fin. The strip
Basically it is this according to the chart here.
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/cyprinid.html
Crossocheilus oblongus(Cuvier and Valenciennes, 1842)
This is a close relative to Siamese Algae Eater, and it is possible that specimens of this fish are sometimes found in schools of Siamese Algae Eater or "false siamensis".
Description: Body shape and color are basically same as Siamese Algae Eater and "false siamensis". All the fins are transparent and the black horizontal stripe does not extend to the tail fin. The strip
Ahh...mine clearly are silver.
Haven't a clue. Should take them back. Stupid buy because I have been looking for them at every LFS. I pressured myself. Sad commentary. Patience! I DO remember seeing them somewhere, but where. The horizontal line the entire length was clear I remember.
Thanks everyone for your help. I'll just get Amano shrimp they're easier on the bio-load anyway.
Haven't a clue. Should take them back. Stupid buy because I have been looking for them at every LFS. I pressured myself. Sad commentary. Patience! I DO remember seeing them somewhere, but where. The horizontal line the entire length was clear I remember.
Thanks everyone for your help. I'll just get Amano shrimp they're easier on the bio-load anyway.
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I don't think I would have been able to positively ID them unless someone had already given me one. Once you know what they look like, they're easy to ID (of course ).
SAEs do get pretty big. Ours got to about 4" within a few months. They get to about 5" or maybe a little more. They're cute enough fish, but do take up quite a bit of space.
Amanos are pretty cool, and fairly entertaining... no worries about them becoming fish-eating monsters.
).SAEs do get pretty big. Ours got to about 4" within a few months. They get to about 5" or maybe a little more. They're cute enough fish, but do take up quite a bit of space.
Amanos are pretty cool, and fairly entertaining... no worries about them becoming fish-eating monsters.
Originally posted by Lotus
Amanos are pretty cool, and fairly entertaining... no worries about them becoming fish-eating monsters.
Amanos are pretty cool, and fairly entertaining... no worries about them becoming fish-eating monsters.
Well, how 'bout this to clear up the issue. Today, my wife informs me, the SAE's(?) were seen nibbling on the forest of hair algae that has descended upon that tank. Its beard is thicker than mine! I checked it out and sure enough there were massive chunks missing from the 'formation.' I'm thinking that settles it. SAEs. No other fish would eat that and it wasn't the Oto in there.
Right?
Right?
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<soft voice> Most juveniles false-sae's eat that algae, which is why they are even more prone to confusion. It is when they are older that their algae eating habits are reduced. </soft voice>
American Flag fish also eat that kind of algae. They're pretty neat fish of their own.
I dont know. Its hard to tell in the picture. Maybe its just faded a LOT or something. But there are better ways to guess than algae consumption since some others do eat that algae. Whatever it is, if it eats what you want, keep it.
Otos dont eat filamentous algae.
American Flag fish also eat that kind of algae. They're pretty neat fish of their own.
I dont know. Its hard to tell in the picture. Maybe its just faded a LOT or something. But there are better ways to guess than algae consumption since some others do eat that algae.
Whatever it is, if it eats what you want, keep it.Otos dont eat filamentous algae.
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