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Brobro

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the only thing thats hard about the water changes is......it would take at least an hour to change the water, cause i dont have a 32.5 gallon bucket.
 

Wormo3188

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Well, you could get a 5 gallon bucket, in which you could get it done with around 10 trips you do it carefully.

I have 2 tanks to change the water in a 20 and a 10, and that takes me about an hour, If I were you I would think about trying to get some sort of hose thing in your basement that way you can drain it and fill it up without lugging buckets of water up and down, up and down, up and down, you know what I mean? It can be a real pain to do it that way, I lug 10 gallons on average up stairs for every change.
 

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run it in from outside for your water changes, as long as their arent any leaks, your floors will be fine, and you now have direct access to unlimited amounts of water, but you should do it with 2 people, one on the faucet of the hose to turn it off and one watching the water level in the tank.
 

catfishmike

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next time try arciflavine instead,i have seen better results with arciflavine than copper based soulutions.if you need a quick soulution to water changes you can use a utility pump and some tubing that you should be able to ge at any fish store.the only promlem with that is that it doesn't allow you to gravel vac which really helps remove ick.i can change 40 gallons in an hour with just buckets.have you considerd a python?they really work.anyways i'm sorry to hear about your loach.i really love loaches but i am afraid of clowns because of all the problems that can arise.
 

AndyL

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Originally posted by wayne
No salt. Clown loaches respond badly to salt, and most meds. I have no idea of what medications in america are any god at all. Try dosing their food with garlic, to encourage the ich to release from the fish. Else do what AndyL suggests
Clowns don't respond badly to salt, mine had ich when I first got them, and they recovered just fine using higher salt concentrations that I suggested... Although iodized salt probably wouldn't be good for them...

Andy
 

#27
Dude, I know how you feel. I'm having an Ich situation myself. I already lost one of my big, beautiful Columbian Sharks to the damned disease. It really looks as though someone took a salt shaker to my fish!! And the plague ain't over yet. I agree with AndyL, I'm boosting my temps gradually, so that they'll fall off. And thats where they are most vulnerable. I'm sure a high quality freshwater salt would'nt hurt the little loaches either. If I were you, I'd be careful with those water changes though. They can do greater harm than good. Those sudden fluctuations in water pH levels are dangerous to fish, even more so to delicate loaches. I'm using a med. right now, its called "Jungle Ick Guard II" Its safe for scaleless fish, cause I still got a couple of sharks and 2 cats.
And did you introduce anything to your tank recently that you think had the parasite?

R.I.P. "Big Boi" My beloved Columbian Shark, never harmed a soul...
 

Leopardess

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just thought i'd pass this along, i was reading in something that hoses , like real hoses, not like the clear air/water hoses, contain a chemical to soften the hose that is very bad for your fish should water back flow into your tank...don't know how true it is, but better safe than sorry right?. I have a huge case of ich right now, i bumped the temp to 83 and have been using coppersafe and a little marycin plus to help ward off secondary stuff...so we'll see how this goes...good luck
 

dana307

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My sympathies go out to you. Just lost a ton of fish to Ick. Symptoms didn't show (sand like spots) til too late. Lost 2 sevs. 2 sharks, 2 tbar cichlids, one cory and one chalceus tetra. Do whatever you can to battle the ick. Hang in there.
 

Doomhed

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DO NOT USE GARDEN HOSE!!!!!
the chemical that softens the hose WILL kill your fish. nowadays the hoses are not safe for most fish, especially loaches.
Also, raise temp to 85 and use double doses of tea tree oil (melafix). And yes, it is used as medicine for humans, especially for those of us with multiple piercings (my 7 earrings) to avoid Keiloids (scar tissue), and it is the only thing i use to kill ich, as well as cure pretty much everything else. it seems to keep ich away pretty well, as I have not ad any ich at all in about 1 year.
 

catfishmike

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for how long has garden hose been unusable,as i have allways heard to just run a lot of water through them before using for the first time.i am quite curious becaue i like my fish and wish to keep them for some time and i have allways used garden hose.
 

catfishmike

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no don't do anything yet,how long has the treatment been going on?ick should be treated for at least 3-4 days after the signs of ick disappear.just because the cysts have dropped of the fish doesn't mean ick is wiped out.make sure to gravel vac real good because lots of cysts are still in your tank.do 2 or 3 water changes and your treatment should be done.btw i like your signature,i feel the same way
 

Wormo3188

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I have no idea what you are talking about with the hoses, I use hoses to completely change the water in my pond for hours on end and have had no problems,

I have used I think 3 hoses in the last 7 years, and nothing, so I dont think the hose problem is fact, if it isme proof, in an article or something.

Brobro, sorry about your fish, but you are going to have to stop depending on meds to solve all the worlds problems. Put some elbow grease into it man!