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snoce

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well i never thought i would ever be cleaning sand....lol....i told my wife not to bother the dirt in the bucket because i am cleaning it...she looked like i was nuts....anyway when fish disturb the sand does it fly up into the water and make it cloudy....also i seen stingrays and it seems that a 30gl tank would be way too small does anyone know if this is true
 

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Once the fine particles of sand are out, then the fish playing in the sand is not going to cause a mess. If they do, then it wasn't rinsed good enough, and will take a while before the filter gets the really small particles out. When you think its rinsed well enough, rinse it some more. You can not rinse it too good, and you will be better off for it in the long run.

FW stingrays are a big no-no in anything less than a 200 gallon.
 

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OK THANKS.....THANKS EVERYONE WHO ANSWERED ME ON MY QUESTIONS BOUT SAND IN MY TANK.....AT MY WORK THERE IS A DRAINAGE BED THAT LEADS INTO A CONCRETE TYPE SEWER...THERE IS ALOT OF LARGE RIVER ROCK LEADING UP TO THE DRAIN...LOTS OF DIFF SHAPES AND COLORS SO I HELPED MYSELF TO A FEW PIECES SO I CAN FORM SOME SORT OF CAVES OUT OF THE ROCK....I WILL GET PICS WHEN THINGS ARE DONE...IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME THOUGH
 

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yes all discus get big if they are healthy. It would be wise to do two max in a 30 gallon. They get to be about 6-8 inches round. Also I noticed you picked some rocks up from outside. Make sure that they don't have any veining in them because that could be metals which are toxic. Some rocks will also alter the pH of the water. Discus seem to benefit from driftwood. And you never want to add discus to an uncycled tank, they will surely suffer or die from the cycle. Just make certain that your tank is cycling if you empty it out and start it again. Even with the best transfer of filter and stuff, things can go wrong. Like I said before - discus are expensive fish.
 

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well the switch has been made...first i bought a bag of playsand and started to clean a bucket full of it...wasnt very happy with how it was going...it was getting cleaned just fine but i dont like how heavy it compacts....seems like there will be alot of bubble pockets...so i went and bought a 15lb bag of the crushed coral sand...i love it...cleaned it very weel for 2 days and when its in the tank its very light and the coral seems to be very soft like texture that the fish will like to dig up...so i emptied the tank but left bout 5 inches of water from the old setup plus i left a very little of the original gravel then placed the new substrate on top about 1 inch or so...it looks great...i placed all my diff size river rock in and made carvern type areas for the fish to swim thru so far it looks pretty cool i am sure i may change the rock around till i am happy with it but so far it looks great...when i took reading of the water the amonia was at zero already is that possible...i did use some existing water and gravel plus the same 2 penquin 170 bio wheel filters....i know fish wont go in yet till its truly ready but so far the switch from a planted barb tank to a tang tank is going great...i will take pics of the process very soon....another question...all the rock is on the bottom of the tank on the right side i have a very cool large piece of driftwood the goes to the top of the tank but on the left side its totally open ....is there anything i can do to make it look more full or should i leave it be so fish have alot of open space to swim....
 

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I hope when you say tang you mean like africian cichlids and not the saltwater tang. doh, jk! Not sure how others set up their cichlid tanks, but won't crushed coral and driftwood cause pH swings as one lowers and one raises the pH. The only way to know if your tank still has it's bio-filter is by adding ammonia. It could be possible if you transfered enough good bacteria.
 

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I am not sure. You need to wait for a more experienced africian cichlid person to answer that question. I keep discus so my experience in cichlids are the ones that like soft acidic water. It may be beneficial to start a new thread with a title to that affect so it gets more attention but thats up to you.