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Fishman1995

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May 11, 2010
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Well my new betta Romeo isnt building any bubble nest's, thou my male Gourami jewel wont stop building one LOL the whole top of the tank was covered in bubble's, so i re set back up my old Aerater so that he may would stop cause he was getting a bit of an attitude toward Felix. So now there both doing just fine and no more bubble nest's. Now my question is, Could i purchase a female and put her beside Romeo, and then will he build a bubblenest?
 

misterking

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#22
As we've said it's too risky. Your male betta would as likely beat the female up as mate with her and the mating process is both stressful and damaging to the female, in a 2.5 you simply don't have the space. You'd also have to remove the female after and I don't think a pet store would take back a damaged female. In short, don't risk it.
 

achase

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I wouldn't risk it because it can be so stressful to the fish and often it doesn't even work out (for various reasons). Plus raising the fry is time consuming and tedious. I tried it once and failed! Really unless you have tons of free time to delicate to breeding and then raising fry I would just enjoy your fish as is.

Also what would you do with so many betta's? I don't think betta's are huge sellers unless they are "specially breed" (ie. pure crowntails, halfmoons, etc.).
 

Thyra

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You know, Fishman, (or should) that this fish keeping thing is expensive and if you get started with breeding bettas, what happens to the rest of your dreams for the 30g tank you are expecting. Somewhere on the net I read a journal on the breeding process and as I remember the total cost was several hundred dollars plus a lot of work. By the time this person was done they had 200 jars they were cleaning besides caring for the fish.

I just bought a very nice used 26g tank with stand for $100. I have already spent an addition $115 and I still don't have any live plants or fish. It would be good to start a fund for furnishing your new tank.
 

Fishman1995

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#29
My LFS would accept the fry from me and would even give me a lil money for them. Also i was told putting 2 males beside each other would cause them to flare at each other. Felix pays no attention to Romeo nor does Romeo to Felix. Also why wont Romeo flare? Felix flares alot at Jewel but Romeo has not flared since i bought him.
 

Fishman1995

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#30
Ive put my larger tank on hold, I want to get my job established next year and get a nice finacial base before i commit to a larger tank. As soon as i turn 16 (in 9 months) i have a job lined up for me. So i figured since during christmas break and summer break i get so bored id consume my time with trying breeding bettas :D
 

#31
Awesome about having a job lined up, you will definitely need some income source with this hobby. I can't believe how expensive it gets it goes from wanting the tank, to the nice filter, to oh it's just a frog or it's just three fish and before you know it you're in my boat that is sinking my bank account LOL.

Since February I've spent at least[\i] $800.00, but I totally say it's worth it you just have to make sure you have money for everything else haha. Soon I'll have to fry my fish and shrimp for a food source! (jk!)
 

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I wouldn't breed your bettas unless you have separate, heated, filtered tanks (not bowls) for the male and female. It's recommended to have at least a 30+ gallon tank for the fry. You must also be prepared to find homes for all the fry and to separate the fry into separate tanks once they are old enough to be sexed. I wouldn't breed two bettas in any tank smaller than 10 to 15 gallons, as breeding requires a lot of patience and you must have a lot of floating plants for the female. This would require you to buy a few more tanks than you already have. Since you still haven't gotten the 29 gallon home for your gourami, I would advise you to stay away from breeding bettas until you have your gourami in a nice home and you have all the tanks and resources to breed them.
 

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Awesome about having a job lined up, you will definitely need some income source with this hobby. I can't believe how expensive it gets it goes from wanting the tank, to the nice filter, to oh it's just a frog or it's just three fish and before you know it you're in my boat that is sinking my bank account LOL.

Since February I've spent at least[\i] $800.00, but I totally say it's worth it you just have to make sure you have money for everything else haha. Soon I'll have to fry my fish and shrimp for a food source! (jk!)


Haha! I agree. I'm aquiring a job at my favourite pet store once marching band season settles down to only 2-3 practices a week so that I can get a discount and, more importantly, actually have money to buy a lot of things for my fish. Oh the joy of being an ichthyophile. :D
 

misterking

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Also i was told putting 2 males beside each other would cause them to flare at each other. Felix pays no attention to Romeo nor does Romeo to Felix. Also why wont Romeo flare? Felix flares alot at Jewel but Romeo has not flared since i bought him.
Why would you want them to flare? Flaring is due to the stress of seeing another male. By putting them in plain view of each other to try and get them to flare you're deliberately stressing them out.

Also, what happens if you LFS won't take them til they're old enough to sex? Then you've got a potentially very large number of males in the same tank until they're of a sellable size. What will you do with all those males?

It seems like it's going to be a lot more hassle than it's worth.

I'm confused about one thing though.. you've had this 2.5 gallon lying around? So that means the whole time you've been "forced" to have your gourami and betta in the same tank and we've been advising you to move one of the fish out, you coulda moved your betta into the 2.5 rather than buying another betta? Especially since it would appear your gourami's getting a bit moody with your older betta as we said would happen. I can't help but think that you've missed a good opportunity to separate the two fish here..

I also thought the new tank was a "guaranteed" gift? Personally I'd ask for it for christmas as planned and set it up slowly to lessen the immediate spending of money and get your gourami out of that 5 before it turns really nasty on your betta..
 

Fishman1995

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#37
Il see what i can do about getting a tank for christmas as mom wants to get us a Nintendo Wii. Actually its been 3 weeks sense the gourami began getting "moody" and after i added the Aerator no more agression has happened for 2.5 weeks. And i didnt put them beside eachother so they would flare all the time. They need to have exercise for an hour a day (or so ive read) flaring but when i tried to get them to exercise, Neither did anything therefore, why i asked why they werent flaring. I keep a Construcion paper barrier up until its exercise time.

On another note, i also added a Golden snail to my 5 gallon as a cleaner and he has cleaned EVERYTHING. MY decoration, My plant leaves, and the gravel is very clean. I do give him a shrimp pellet every wensday as a snack :D

I have decided NOT to breed betta's right now as i dont have the room or funds. Im going to wait until i get my own house and can devote my full time and space. Thou id still like to know why my betta's never pay attention to eachother? Id like to get Romeo to exercise somehow without adding a fish/frog/shrimp to his tank, as thats the only way Felix flares is at Jewel. Is it possible that since my bettas i bought where house in lil square things beside each other in the store i bought that there used to seeing another male and thats why they dont care if they see eachother?
 

misterking

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#38
It might just be that they can't see each other because of the two pieces of glass between them refracting the light. I've never heard that they need "exercise" by flaring.. one of the betta experts can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure this isn't the case. Flaring is confrontation and stress and I wouldn't advise anyone to "exercise" a fish by stressing it out.