Finishing off my tank next week :)

ryanoh

ryanoh

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Mar 22, 2010
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What kind of snail is it that you have now? If your snail(s) is(are) too small I think your cichlids may eat them. I'm not sure. Ask someone who knows more about cichlids.

What kind of snail do you currently have?
 

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Fishman1995

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May 11, 2010
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Its a golden apple snail and it is FULL GROWN lol or at least i pray it is, its bigger than any of my fish, it cant even fit in that log its so huge. He can eat 3 Shrimp pellets and is excellent at cleaning up, i just hope he cant breed with other kinds of snails lol
 

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SonofaGun

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While there are exceptions to every rule, I will practically guarantee you, you will lose most if not all of the other fish in your tank to your Jewel. They are beautiful but IMO/E are only suitable for species tanks for the most part, definitley not a good addition to a community tank. I had a 2"-ish Jewel in a 38 gal with some danios and a breeding pair of kribs/their fry. I figured, hey, the danios can outswim him and the kribs can be nasty little guys in their own right, so I shouldn't have a problem.. Very wrong. For the first few days things were fine as he settled in, however, I quickly lost two of the danios to him. I removed the survivors to another tank and things were fine with the kribs when their fry were very young. However, the older and more indepedent the offspring became, the more relaxed the parents were, and after about 1-2 months in the tank, the Jewel had wiped out all the fry and beat the crap out of my female krib (who died after I moved the Jewel out, and I am still convinced it was from the stress of it all). Once I moved him to his own tank, the gorgeous colours he showed in the 38 gal became washed out, and he became extremely skittish - this from a fish who I used to hand feed! I would have done a species tank myself, but just didn't have the room, so I sadly made the decision to trade him in at the LFS in hopes of finding a happier situation for him.

Again, all this fuss caused by a 2" fish.. These guys can, and should, get up to 6". So not only is a 20gL tight quarters for an individual, add in all those other fish (especially those tasty little cherry barbs) and it is really far from an ideal situation for any of the fish involved.
 

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Fishman1995

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May 11, 2010
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This isnt a normal jewel cichlid. this is a TURQUOISE jewel. They have been inbred into jewel familys to create a MUCH MUCH dosiler species. It also became smaller somehow and only gets about 4 inchs in length. If i see ANY problems begin to arise the jewel will be instanly removed and returned to the LFS
 

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Thyra

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Jun 2, 2010
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There is both a Jewel Cichlid and a Turquoise Cichlid on AqAdvisor - neither recommended for your tank, but I don't know where you got the 4 inches from because the Turquoise will grow to 8 inches and the other I believe it said 6. Sounds like the Turquoise one will empty your tank if that is what you have, so you will be stocking again.
 

misterking

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I wouldn't bother with the molly personally, an extra snail sounds fine. Keep an eye on the jewel cichlid as it grows as they can get quite big (4-6 inches) and grow bad tempers, and I think it's quite likely that it will require a new home in the future (either as it outgrows the tank or turns nasty on your ram) or an upgrade in tank. I'll be honest, they're not high on my list for a community tank, they're just not good community fish, so you need to keep a close eye on it.

I also agree with a previous poster who suggested 3 more danios.
 

misterking

misterking

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Also to add, I've said it before, and I won't waste too much time here if it won't be listened to, but PLEASE for the sake of your fish start researching BEFORE you buy fish. Impulse buying with lack of knowledge leads to big mistakes, as you will have found out time and time again so far, for example when you mixed your betta with a gourami. It's an expensive hobby at the best of times and more so when you make the same mistakes again and again.

Btw +1 on big54bob's comment, they're exactly the same, just a colour morph. Just like koi and regular silver angels, it's the same principle.
 

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