Finishing off my tank next week :)

Fishman1995

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I appologize, i havent been true, i forgot that they werent in the cup, remeber earlier in the thread i explained that i clipped them to the tank by a normal fish net. They were sitting in the 5 gallon where no fish could get into there net and eat them. Im not 100% sure what caused there death but they died in the 5 gallon in the net. once again i appologize
 

ryanoh

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Yeah, I don't think it was a terrible thing you did, I think he was just telling you to be cautious.

After my first group of platy fry, I stopped trying to collect them as well. I don't really want to deal with 20 fry every time, so I just let nature run its course. Usually 1 or 2, or even 3 this last batch, will live, and that's fine. I can see why you'd want to just let what's going to happen happen and not worry about trying to keep the fry.
 

Thyra

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Unless I don't understand the cup thing, if it wasn't kept warm in some manner that is probably why they died. They would be very vulnerable to temperature unless the cup was floating in the tank.
 

Newman

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which is what I told him to do, and maybe poke some holes in the cup for water exchange if the cup was bendable plastic.
But they are gone now, so you will know what not to do for the future ones then :)

Riseabovethesun has experience with bamboo shrimp.
 

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Fishman1995 said:
I wish someone on this site had experince with Bamboo or African Filter shrimp :/
I know enough to say neither are suited for your tank[because I've had both before].

1) your Bolivian Ram would probably rip either apart leg by leg
2) filter feeders; need tons of tiny food
3) *NEED* more established tanks
4) can jump[crawl?] out of even "well covered" tanks...
 

ryanoh

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4) can jump[crawl?] out of even "well covered" tanks...
This reminds me of something a guy in one of my classes last semester told me about a shrimp he had in his betta tank. I'm 99% sure he made it up as a joke, but he said his bamboo shrimp crawled out of his 5 gallon and got in bed with his sister.

Terrifying.
 

Fishman1995

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Well for 1 they werent in a cup which i appologize for saying in the first place, they were in a net suspened in the water where nothing could get to them, the main tank has a heater so they were kept warm.

Secondly thank you kenny, i dont want to cause the death of a shrimp :D
 

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Fishman1995,

Most fish live with diseases such as ich and show no signs of it. When something stresses the fish (poor water quality is a typical stresser), this will lower the immune response to the ich. That is how a tank that has been set up and nothing added to it in years can SUDDENLY develop a case of ich.

If the fry were kept in the net suspended in a tank that had a fish in the tank, that would have been stressful to the fry. Fish will try to eat fry through the net. Since fry do not have fully developed swim bladders when very young, they sink to the bottom when they do not actively swim. This causes them to rest ON something (the bottom of the net, any gravel or plant in the net with them, etc.).

You can feed your fish whatever you want, its your tank and your fish. I was just pointing out that its not the wisest of things to do. Even a fish that died of 'natural causes' can carry disease. If you are going to feed your fish other fish, its best to use a live (hopefully undiseased) fish, or a fish that you have just killed for the purpose of feeding.

Just my 2cents.
OC
 

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I keep 8 aquariums, and will feed a 'commericial' product like flake foods/pellets, etc maybe 4 or 5 times a month. The rest of the time, they get a variety of live foods (although not live fish as food). Nothing wrong with live foods, infact, it induces spawning in a lot of fish to feed live. To watch a carnivore actively hunt worms buried in the gravel is a fun thing to watch, at least to me.

Had you left the fry in the tank with the parents, they would likely have been hunted not survived as long as they did. It is 'natural' for a fish to do this.