Bettas, Cherry Shrimp & a "few" questions

Grey

Small Fish
Oct 11, 2011
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England
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Hello,

I wasn’t sure which category to post this under as it is about several things, so I hope this is the appropriate place for my topic. I've spent literally hours scanning the internet and the forums but I may have missed something so please excuse me if the following has been asked before.

Over the course of the past few months I’ve gradually been setting up an aquarium in my bedroom. It holds 8 to 10 US gallons of water (I don’t know the exact volume as we’ve had this aquarium for a couple of years and I no longer have the packaging but I do know it is at LEAST 30 litres) and is planted with common plants such as amazon sword plants, banana lilies, anubias & Christmas moss on bogwood and java fern & Christmas moss on a coconut cave. I also have a piece of driftwood that I’m going to break up and boil before adding alongside some java moss (I won’t be boiling the moss… unless you like moss tea). It’s currently got a mechanical filter but that will be replaced with a sponge filter that is “maturing” in our established and fully cycled aquarium downstairs.

It was my intention to use this aquarium for red cherry shrimp and some fry that had come into my care. While the aquarium was being set up the fry unfortunately perished in their temporary enclosure - I have yet to purchase the shrimp. I’ve felt rather disheartened but have decided to move forward and think of what other critters I could house in the aquarium. My mind drifted back to the one fish I never thought I would be lucky enough to own: a betta.

It’ll be a while before I make any purchases but I wish to be prepared beforehand. I’ve looked for advice with regards to keeping a betta with red cherry shrimp but haven’t found enough information to say I’m comfortable with any particular decision, so I’ve come to you for help - if I may do so.

* I’m wondering what your experiences are with regards to keeping betta fish with red cherry shrimp. Would you advise it?

* I’ve also read that the aggressiveness of a betta varies greatly depending on species/personality. Is there anything in particular I should look out for if I do choose to purchase a betta? Any behaviours to look for in store? Should I get a male or female?

* If I do go ahead with this I would add the red cherry shrimp first; I’m hoping this would encourage the betta to establish a territory away from the cherry shrimp. Is there any logic to this thinking? Would this reduce aggression towards the shrimp?

* I do have a heater suited for my aquarium however my bedroom always stays within a similar temperature range (with the exception of slight drops at night, of course). The water of my aquarium usually reads between 70 and 74 degrees F. Would this be suitable? Should I add the heater to the aquarium just to keep things steady?

* Assassin snails. I have a single assassin snail we call “Titan”. He was living with the fry I mentioned earlier and now needs a new home; our downstairs aquarium houses four apple snails alongside the various fish so I don’t know if it would be wise to place him in that aquarium; would it be safe for him in the one in my bedroom if I were to acquire some red cherry shrimp and a betta?

I’m sorry for the length of my post, but I would love to learn as much as possible before coming to any final decision. I do have one more question… if bettas really are off the list for companions for the red cherry shrimp does anyone have any alternate suggestions? I don’t mind having pure red cherry shrimp, I would just hate to see all that swimming space go to waste hahah.
 

Dec 5, 2011
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Walla Walla, Washington
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Yes, it is true that bettas can be quite aggressive, especially the males. Both genders of bettas can be aggressive, but the females are not always that bad.

I have never had shrimp, so, unfortunately i can't help you with that. However, i have read online somewhere that if you are going to house bettas with other fish, than, yes you should put the shrimp in, and then the betta.

The theory is, that all the betta has seen come from the top of the tank, is food. So if you don't want your betta to have shrimp salad for lunch, put the shrimp in first.
 

Dec 5, 2011
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Oops, sorry. I have never had any experience with shrimp. I am glad you didn't feed all of the shrimp to him, though! I guess it usually either depends on the breed that you are putting in with him, or he just has a hungry personality. Looks like he did get his shrimp salad! :(
 

Grey

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Oct 11, 2011
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England
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Thank you all for the responses, I do appreciate it. Looks like I may have to go for something different, what a pity! I'll give it a little more time and see what else I can learn before changing my mind. Thanks again!
 

Thyra

Superstar Fish
Jun 2, 2010
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You say "lucky enough to own a betta" - are they expensive or difficult to find in England? Here in the states they are easy to find and I have found very beautiful ones for as little as $1.99, although the usual price is $3.99 and of course, you can go on up from there, but to my eye, they aren't necessarily any prettier. And sometimes when you get a younger male and put it in the right environment, they really bloom and their finnage gets absolutely beautiful! Personalities differ, but so far I have not had an aggressive one, but have found them rather timid until they get use to all the space. I do not know anything about shrimp, but I have a betta in a community tank and also have two small tanks, each with a betta and two otos. I think you would find a betta very friendly and would soon be eating from your fingers if you chose to do so.
 

Grey

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Oct 11, 2011
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England
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They aren't overly difficult to get ahold of, I just never thought I would own one; I've never really been overly confident with my fishkeeping abilities, but that seems to have improved lately. I'm so used to us having guppies, platys and the odd molly that I'm rather excited at the prospect of owning one of the beautiful creatures I used to beg my parents for as a child hahah.

Thank you for your response.
 

Jul 18, 2011
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They aren't overly difficult to get ahold of, I just never thought I would own one; I've never really been overly confident with my fishkeeping abilities, but that seems to have improved lately. I'm so used to us having guppies, platys and the odd molly that I'm rather excited at the prospect of owning one of the beautiful creatures I used to beg my parents for as a child hahah.

Thank you for your response.
Instead of a betta, I would suggest 5-7 lemon tetras.

Here's a video of them: Lemon Tetra - YouTube
 

Grey

Small Fish
Oct 11, 2011
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England
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Those are rather beautiful; thank you for the video! I'm not sure where abouts I'd locate them from. I have time, though - seems I've got a bit of a bacterial bloom going on right now. Gotta let that clear up.

Edit: I've done some research and am a little concerned that my water might be a bit too hard for these guys. While I'm aware that fish can adjust to different pHs of water, the sheer hardness of our local water (measures 300+ PPM using a TDS meter) might cause a problem. I'm not sure.
 

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lauraf

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Jan 1, 2010
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Vancouver, British Columbia
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Edit: I've done some research and am a little concerned that my water might be a bit too hard for these guys. While I'm aware that fish can adjust to different pHs of water, the sheer hardness of our local water (measures 300+ PPM using a TDS meter) might cause a problem. I'm not sure.
Does your fish store have the same water source?