Bacteria colony...worked?

Fishman1995

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Some how i always end up being in the wrong, i stock correctly i do water changes and i even do a bacteria colony start and wait a month to get more fish but some how ive still messed something up -.-
 

Newman

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lol dont worry, all of us have wondered about pH when we first started our tanks. I personally bought pH up and pH down, never to be used lmao. glad i researched more before i started using those products :p
 

Thyra

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The problem, Fishman, is that apparently you don't read what other people do, write or have problems with. This whole forum is full of the pH thing -OC has repeatedly, along with many others, said not to mess with the pH. One of my initial questions on this forum(which was just after you joined) was about the fact my pH was well over 8.2 and Laura said not to be messing with it. And still you sound like you never heard about it. There is a thread I started on using Tetra Safe Start - it included a letter from the company that explained a lot of things - and I also mentioned it in a post directly to you - I have always wondered if you went back and read it. If you read other things on the forums (and I know you go to Fishlore) you would also find some info on the vinegar, sugar, vodka experiment someone is doing. I have also mention the fact that some people have experimented with the strips (which I understand are cheaper than the liquids) vs the liquids w/o seeing a significant difference and if you can't afford the liquids they would be better than nothing until Christmas IMO.
 

aakaakaak

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And AqAdvisor says......

# Note: Giant Danio may jump - lids are recommended.
# Warning: At least 5 x Giant Danio are recommended in a group.
And the Fishlore profile says (for german blue ram. I'm assuming it would be similar for bolivians)......

Aquarists generally find it is not 'easy' to keep this fish, as they often die soon after purchase. This is because they need well established water to feel comfortable enough in and they can be picky eaters at first. Introduction to an established tank is essential as they are likely to die if the water is not 'old' enough.
(A bolivian ram may be different. I don't know for sure.)
 

Fishman1995

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First off to Thyra, ive had Misterking tell me that the PH isnt right for those species so i figured id fix it, secondly Aakaakaak, i do not have Giant Danio's and do not wish to own them, Thirdly German Blue Rams and Bolivian Rams are to seperate species, please dont give me info on a different speices that you assume is the same because no 2 species of fish will ever be the same and to top it all off, id like to add that i went and picked up 3 cherry barbs in hopes they'd school with the Pearl Danios and they did, so now all im doing is picking up a few catish and an algae eater and im calling it stocked
 

Newman

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bolivian rams will benefit from the same treatment as german rams, in terms of adding to a mature system. I do think bolivian are more hardy though from what i have read.
 

Thyra

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I do not believe MK ever suggested you change your pH, but that you choose fish that were compatible with your pH, but he evidently no longer chooses to be involved in your stocking plans. And I gather, once again, no one really knows what your stocking is because you now have 3 cherry barbs besides the ram and danios.
 

Fishman1995

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Ok im going back through this whole process and give you guys a back track so theres no more confusion lol. Ok At the beggining of October i was brought home a 20 Gal Long tank starter kit. A week after setting it up i added in my Bacteria Colony and purchased 3 Pearl Danio's. Then, 2 nights ago i went and had my water tested at my LFS and everything was at its right level i have no clue what it was exactly but if you have a API master tester then heres the color codes PH- Blue Amonia- light yellow and Nitrite - Light blue. Not sure if thats exactly right all i know is Amonia and Nitrite were at the beginings of the chart and PH was at the bottom. That next morning (Yesterday Morining) I purchased my Bolivian Ram and came home and put him in. I remembered how much i liked my cherry barbs that were in my 5.5 gallon so i decided after reading lots of peoples threads saying different species had schooled together decided id try it because i didnt want 6 Pearl Danio's in the tank or id prob get motion sick when i looked at the tank. Therefore i went back up to my LFS and bought 3 Cherry Barbs and brought them back home, added them and came back an hour later and they are schooling with the Pearl Danio's. So my tank stocking right now as which is in my signature is:

1 Female Bolivian Ram
3 Pearl Danio's
3 Cherry barbs

Now i also have a question or two. My Bolivian Ram isnt eating that i can see, should i wait and She'l eat when shes hungry or try soaking some freeze dried bloodworms and suringing them at her?

Secondly about how much room do i have left, enough for some more top/mid fish and bottom dwellers or just bottom dwellers? How long should i wait to get these fish?
 

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What is the nitrate 'color' if you do not know the numbers?

How specifically did you add the new fish to you 20 gallon tank?

What was the pH of the water the ram was coming from?
 

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By how did you add the fish, it is not the order you added them.

They came home from the pet store in a small plastic bag, yes?

How specifically did you get them from the plastic bag into your 20 gallon tank?
 

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Most of my tanks are a 'species' tank, with only fish of one species (or very closely related species) in them. Those that do have a variety, they are all from the same area of the world in the wild (a biotope). I put the plants they would encounter in their native waters in with them. All breed frequently, so they must feel comfortable.

One tank I have is an Asian themed tank. It has Badis badis, Boraras brigittae, Celestichthys margaritatus, and a few Indostomus crocodilus which I'm trying to remove to set them up in their own species tank.

I have purchased all of these fish initially from private importers. All were wild-caught. With the exception of the I. crocodilus, all have bred in this tank (one of the reasons I want to move the I. crocodilus is to see if they will breed without competition for food).