Crayfish or Lobster???

Nov 12, 2006
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lol thanks yahoo and big vine that website will be a big help i just made an account there..do u guys have one?? and big vine thank you for all the info you gave me and i will almost for sure be getting one sometime after christmas !!! i will keep everybody posted on progress towards my cray!!! and now i am not for sure that i want a blue cray the other colors are awesome also!!! thanks again everyone!!
JJ
 

#23
also there are a few other blue crays out there. likethe Procambarus clarkii and the imunis. cant remember the genus name though. these are less aggressive then the p. alleni's. i have an account on bluecrayfish.com. my name on there is also yahoofishkeeper.

PS just remembered, its the Orconectes imunis.
 

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Nov 12, 2006
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ok thanks yahoo and i was wondering are there any crays (mainly blue cuz thats what my mom likes) that could be kept in my 55g community tank? the guy at my LFS said i could put a dwarf cray but i would want something a lil bit larger for a 55g?? any ideas??
thanks again!!
JJ
 

Big Vine

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Feb 7, 2006
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Just wanted to clear something up...

YahooFishKeeper said:
lowering the temp a little would help, but it will increase your crays metabolism
I think I know what YFK was trying to get at here.
Water temp. does have a direct impact on a cray's metabolism and, ultimately, its lifespan. However, lower temperatures will actually have the effect of lowering the cray's metabolism...which lends itself toward the cray eating less, and therefore moulting less frequently---thus helping it to live a longer life.

However, lowering the temp. won't be conducive to keeping most tropical fish species. Furthermore, the effect on the cray's lifespan won't likely be hugely significant. Besides...crays are typically less active (hence less entertaining) in lower temperatures anyway.


As for cray/fish compatibility...

As YFK said,
YahooFishKeeper said:
im not sure. you'd have to find a specific species and read up.
This is why I would recommend getting whatever type of cray you want and just see how things go. No one can accurately predict the possible outcomes ahead of time---there are tons of compatibility issues to consider.

Obviously you will need to be mindful of the fact that the fish you add could get eaten.

Observe things and make a note of who (if any) gets eaten and who doesn't, then tailor the rest of your stocking accordingly.

If, however, you are dead-set on getting a certain type of fish that you absolutely must have and that absolutely must not get eaten by the cray, then perhaps the best bet would be to abandon the cray idea altogether.

Somehow I get the feeling that you won't let the prospect of a few fish losses deter you from getting that cray! ;)

Hope this helps.
Big Vine
 

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VirgoWolf

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Feb 16, 2006
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dangit, I was putting the idea of crays and crabs on the back burner, but reading this just makes me want them more, but I do NOT have any expendable fish (besides my mom's cories, ewwww, but that would be mean LOL) and with currently 15 tanks running now (I know I know, I'm workign on it, stupid quarentine and seperating them!) and possibly trading the 75gal for a 240gal soon... I just don't think I can... GRRRRR :(
 

mibbyblues

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usacutie81 said:
Plus, you may want to keep in mind that crays are cold water fish. I'd get something that can tolerate colder water with them. If you kept the temp above 76 the only time you may see the cray is at feeding time.
Not all blue crays are coldwater. Redclaw are blue in color(for the most part) and they are tropical and need warm water since they are southern hemispherical crays.
 

mibbyblues

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Sep 22, 2006
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big Vine,

I want to correct one issue.... I understand that the theory is that if you lower the water temp of the habitat of the crayfish thus slowing the crays metabolism that the thought is you will lengthen the crays life.
But, I have reports that pertain to Redclaw( will have to re read it to see if it pertains to other species other than Cherax) where the theory was tested and the findings were that by lowering the crays water temp below normal standards and by lowering the metabolism that they were in fact reducing the lifespan of the cray. that interfearing with its normal lifecycles and ranges actually shortens the crays lifespan.

Now, that theory may be correct with other species(like NA crays) but it is not with Southern hemispherical crays