Sorority community?
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You have to have atleast 5 or 6 females for a betta sorority to really work.
I've only ever had two in my ten gallon, and it was segregated, but I've read they you can set up a sorority of bettas in a ten gallon with no problems, and maybe even have a small school of tetras? I'm not sure about that last part. Just make sure you have enough, you add them all at the same time, and you have plenty of betta safe decorations for them to define their territory with.
I've only ever had two in my ten gallon, and it was segregated, but I've read they you can set up a sorority of bettas in a ten gallon with no problems, and maybe even have a small school of tetras? I'm not sure about that last part. Just make sure you have enough, you add them all at the same time, and you have plenty of betta safe decorations for them to define their territory with.
I personally would get like 4-5 females to disperse aggression...but they can be kept in a community with the right fish.
What fish would you have in mind to get??? I would do something like the bettas, a group of like 5-6 neon or glowlight or cardinal tetras for example, 4 panda cories, & 3 otocinclus..
Oh...also, I would recommend planting the tank kinda heavily. If not with live then silk...or even plastic as long as it's not sharp.
What fish would you have in mind to get??? I would do something like the bettas, a group of like 5-6 neon or glowlight or cardinal tetras for example, 4 panda cories, & 3 otocinclus..
Oh...also, I would recommend planting the tank kinda heavily. If not with live then silk...or even plastic as long as it's not sharp.
Oh...sorry to say, but more then likely there will be issues with that...
First: Betta sororities should not be less the 4...think about 2 betta girls getting aggressive and pairing up against the other, passive one...that's worse the keeping just 2 together! lol
Second: Kribs are notorious for being aggressive...I think they could kill betta girls pretty quickly.
Third: ... Siamese Algae Eaters get big [6" long, I think] and prefer to be in groups...1 alone isn't really a good idea, but cramped in a 20gal is even worse. [Even a 20gL]
Kuhli Loaches sound good, snail sounds good[mystery or nerite?], & male guppies sound ok, though.
First: Betta sororities should not be less the 4...think about 2 betta girls getting aggressive and pairing up against the other, passive one...that's worse the keeping just 2 together! lol
Second: Kribs are notorious for being aggressive...I think they could kill betta girls pretty quickly.
Third: ... Siamese Algae Eaters get big [6" long, I think] and prefer to be in groups...1 alone isn't really a good idea, but cramped in a 20gal is even worse. [Even a 20gL]
Kuhli Loaches sound good, snail sounds good[mystery or nerite?], & male guppies sound ok, though.
I know nothing about loaches or kribs, but bettas and male guppies is usually bad since the bettas will recognize the guppy tail fin and the guppy won't be able to really defend itself against the betta. This is advice someone gave me about a male betta, but it probably applies to female bettas as well, so just be careful.
Why not get like 6 bettas, 4 or 5 cory catfish, and a school of like 6 neon tetras or something? Maybe swap those corys out for loaches if you're really set on loaches, or maybe go with a small pleco in place of both.
I had a female betta in my tank (who recently died) and the only fish she ever had a problem with was a gourami, so as long as you're picking passive fish I think your bettas would be fine in the 'community.' Again though, I stress the decorations of either real or silk plants because your bettas need somewhere to hide out when they get tired of each other.
Why not get like 6 bettas, 4 or 5 cory catfish, and a school of like 6 neon tetras or something? Maybe swap those corys out for loaches if you're really set on loaches, or maybe go with a small pleco in place of both.
I had a female betta in my tank (who recently died) and the only fish she ever had a problem with was a gourami, so as long as you're picking passive fish I think your bettas would be fine in the 'community.' Again though, I stress the decorations of either real or silk plants because your bettas need somewhere to hide out when they get tired of each other.
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Well even female kribs can become aggressive but once again, it depends on the individual fish.
If you want a school of something, I would recommend cutting back the number of guppies. You don't want your tank looking physically crowded[plus they are a pretty big bioload for their size]. I'll also suggest cutting back the number of khulis to 3...
Cardinal or neon tetras always spring to mind when you want a small group[5] of something colorful, but glowlight tetras are nice too.
If you want a school of something, I would recommend cutting back the number of guppies. You don't want your tank looking physically crowded[plus they are a pretty big bioload for their size]. I'll also suggest cutting back the number of khulis to 3...
Cardinal or neon tetras always spring to mind when you want a small group[5] of something colorful, but glowlight tetras are nice too.
+1 on what Kenny said. NO FEMALE BETTAS WITH ANY TYPE OF CICHLID, even peaceful ones like rams. Take it from someone who has kept sororities for almost two years and who has recently started keeping cichlids (rams and angels). Even GBRs have some serious attitude and, knowing female bettas like I do, I can tell you that they don't deal with attitude well. I could just imagine the blood-bath if I let either of my girls lose in my 20gL...and kribs (male OR female) are at least ten times worse than GBRs, from what I've read.
And I wouldn't recommend a sorority for a 10gal, either. There isn't room for the girls to get away from each other in a 10gal, regardless of how many hiding spots you have.
Some fish I've successfully kept female bettas with include:
Glowlight tetras
Harlequin rasbora
Platies
Swordtails
Featherfin catfish (wouldn't recommend for anything less than a 40gal)
Horseface loach (wouldn't recommend for anything less than a 55gal)
Cories
Plecos
Some fish I have NOT had success keeping with female bettas:
Male guppies
And I wouldn't recommend a sorority for a 10gal, either. There isn't room for the girls to get away from each other in a 10gal, regardless of how many hiding spots you have.
Some fish I've successfully kept female bettas with include:
Glowlight tetras
Harlequin rasbora
Platies
Swordtails
Featherfin catfish (wouldn't recommend for anything less than a 40gal)
Horseface loach (wouldn't recommend for anything less than a 55gal)
Cories
Plecos
Some fish I have NOT had success keeping with female bettas:
Male guppies
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Thanks a bunch's Bass. The guppies were kinda for mom anyway (she loves those little things) i myself dont like them all that well because they are super hogs lol. Here are some pictures of my tank, Bass tell me if it'd be ok for a sorority? Then once thats settle i can begin choosing tankmates or restart my stocking
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I'm not saying you should go through with it if the consensus is that its a bad idea, because I don't know as much as Bass about it, but IF you do add bettas to your tank, even if its just one, put the other fish in first, then wait a few days and add your betta(s). If you put the betta in first they'll establish their territory, then any fish you add after will be a threat to them. When I had my two bettas in my divided 10 gallon I had to hold a pleco for a friend of mine so I put it in my betta tank over night so it wouldn't fight with my pleco in my community tank. Both the bettas went after him because he was in their territory. When one betta died and I was able to move the surviving one into the community tank, she had no problems with my pleco since he was there first and she didn't see him as a threat to her, nor did she have any problems with any of the other fish since they were there first.
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This certainly isn't a way to trick cichlids though. I've never kept them myself, but I do agree that it just seems like a bad idea to put an aggressive species with a betta.
Also, nice looking tank. Is it new?
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This certainly isn't a way to trick cichlids though. I've never kept them myself, but I do agree that it just seems like a bad idea to put an aggressive species with a betta.
Also, nice looking tank. Is it new?
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Ryanoh and Achase are correct. You need WAY more plants (preferably live or silk) and hiding places than that for a sorority, and the girls should be the very last thing you add. A good sorority tank does not have very clear lines of sight through the tank and has enough hiding places (caves, rocks, clumps of plants, etc) that each female can claim one for her own.
Example: In my 55gal (before it came into crisis...AGAIN!), I have a pile of rocks on one side holding on end of the long piece of driftwood down and another large rock on the other end holding it down. One girl claimed one pile, the other girl claimed the other pile. They do not venture into each other's personal spaces (think of it as their "house"), but they mingle everywhere else in the tank.
Example: In my 55gal (before it came into crisis...AGAIN!), I have a pile of rocks on one side holding on end of the long piece of driftwood down and another large rock on the other end holding it down. One girl claimed one pile, the other girl claimed the other pile. They do not venture into each other's personal spaces (think of it as their "house"), but they mingle everywhere else in the tank.
I brought home my first inhabitants today and i added in the correct dosage of Tetra Safe Start. I purchased 3 Pearl Danio's The lady at the pet store said wait 6 weeks then come back and she'd test my water and let me know if it was safe for more fish. Ive also found another fish id like to include in my tank, can i put a pair of angels in there?
The lady at the pet store said wait 6 weeks then come back and she'd test my water and let me know if it was safe for more fish. Ive also found another fish id like to include in my tank, can i put a pair of angels in there?Thanx OC ANgels are out of the question then, ok ima make a list of fish and you guys let me know what you think.
YoYo Loach's
Dojo Loachs
Zipper Loachs
Bolivan ram's (id only add 1 of any ram or Dwarf cichlid species)
German Blue Ram
Pearl Gouramis
3 spot gouarmi
Opalaine gourami
Tiger Barbs
Rainbowfish
African Butterfly fish
Siamese algae eater
Otocinculus
Striped Spiny Eel
Rainbow Shark
Severem's
I know thats alot of species but if i know what i can work with then i can decide better
YoYo Loach's
Dojo Loachs
Zipper Loachs
Bolivan ram's (id only add 1 of any ram or Dwarf cichlid species)
German Blue Ram
Pearl Gouramis
3 spot gouarmi
Opalaine gourami
Tiger Barbs
Rainbowfish
African Butterfly fish
Siamese algae eater
Otocinculus
Striped Spiny Eel
Rainbow Shark
Severem's
I know thats alot of species but if i know what i can work with then i can decide better