http://www.myfishtank.net/forum/showthread.php?t=29009&highlight=humane;+animalistic
Here is the thread from WAY back where we discussed whether fish feel pain.
Here is the thread from WAY back where we discussed whether fish feel pain.
Death,...by any means necessary!
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What the vet said
Hi all
I got hold of a vet yesterday (he'd been on Hols) and i asked him what is the best method to euthanise a fish. He said freezing is the most humane way (& he is a keen fish keeper himself) and that they wont feel ice crystals forming in thier tissue or anything. They'd just basically go to sleep. So i will continue to use this method in the future.
*GOLDFISH*
Hi all
I got hold of a vet yesterday (he'd been on Hols) and i asked him what is the best method to euthanise a fish. He said freezing is the most humane way (& he is a keen fish keeper himself) and that they wont feel ice crystals forming in thier tissue or anything. They'd just basically go to sleep. So i will continue to use this method in the future.
*GOLDFISH*
I still don't see how freezing them can be less painful then another method. Fish live in water, taking them out of water and throwing them in the freezer where there is no water...in water form....would that not be cruel? Thats like killing a human by drowning.
I still prefer knives. Its how you clean fish after you catch them. After that head comes off....thats all she wrote.
I still prefer knives. Its how you clean fish after you catch them. After that head comes off....thats all she wrote.
Humane doesn't refer to the 'victim' of the act. It refers to our attitudes towards it.
On a side note...for years I grew up watching TV shows, having fish, friends having fish...all were dealt with the same way. Flushing. Call it what you will, but it was driven into people's heads until they 'knew better'. Myself, I had no idea it wasn't an 'accepted practice' until I read this thread...though so far I've always brought mine back to the LFS so that I could maybe identify what was wrong, and they took care of it.
My Betta that I had when I was 11 years old, however, was flushed...cuz that's what I thought you were supposed to do.
Don't trample on people for not knowing...many of us had no idea. Why would I EVER think to put a fish in a blender?
On a side note...for years I grew up watching TV shows, having fish, friends having fish...all were dealt with the same way. Flushing. Call it what you will, but it was driven into people's heads until they 'knew better'. Myself, I had no idea it wasn't an 'accepted practice' until I read this thread...though so far I've always brought mine back to the LFS so that I could maybe identify what was wrong, and they took care of it.
My Betta that I had when I was 11 years old, however, was flushed...cuz that's what I thought you were supposed to do.
Don't trample on people for not knowing...many of us had no idea. Why would I EVER think to put a fish in a blender?
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But seriously though folks, THIS would not be a very humane
way to dispose of ones' beloved fish, now would it?
On the contrary, for as Cichlid-Man put it, it wouldn't be
any more humane to freeze a fish out of water than it
would to euthanize a human by drowning.
NO!
So, I suggest that if any of you tin-pot dictators out there
decide to use one of those nukes you've got lying around
to dispose of your fish, then My God, at least have the
common courtesy to put the fish in the water before you NUKE IT!!!!
way to dispose of ones' beloved fish, now would it?
On the contrary, for as Cichlid-Man put it, it wouldn't be
any more humane to freeze a fish out of water than it
would to euthanize a human by drowning.
NO!
So, I suggest that if any of you tin-pot dictators out there
decide to use one of those nukes you've got lying around
to dispose of your fish, then My God, at least have the
common courtesy to put the fish in the water before you NUKE IT!!!!
Honestly, don't take what a vet tells you to heart. Where is dogdoc when you need him. Ichthyology is a very specialized field, wile a general puppy/kitty vet may have a good idea they by no means are an expert on the subject. Only 2 things make you an expert. School and experience. So if a vet has never taken any Ichthyology classes and never owned as much as a betta, would you really trust him/her to know what is best just because that person is a vet?
Well, I’ve experimented with a few different methods and I can say that killing an animal I have no intention on eating is not a very pleasant experience.
I’m not sure how this is rated but I’ve actually tried the alcohol method and it is nowhere humane. When I was about 17 I had a beta that was clearly diseased beyond repair so I decided to give him the “gas chamber”. What a stupid idea. At first it seemed to work like a dream, he swam furiously around the glass of rubbing alcohol for a few seconds and stopped. He started to turn kinda whiteish so I decided with a job well done to flush him and eat some Oreos. When I went to dump him he started at it again so I left him for a bit longer but after about a minute I decided that this wasn’t the best way to go so I cut his head off.
I had to euthanize a blue ram with a big tumor on his head. I cut his head off as well but I should have smashed him with a brick or something because I’m not sure how long brain activity continues after the head is removed.
I’m not sure how this is rated but I’ve actually tried the alcohol method and it is nowhere humane. When I was about 17 I had a beta that was clearly diseased beyond repair so I decided to give him the “gas chamber”. What a stupid idea. At first it seemed to work like a dream, he swam furiously around the glass of rubbing alcohol for a few seconds and stopped. He started to turn kinda whiteish so I decided with a job well done to flush him and eat some Oreos. When I went to dump him he started at it again so I left him for a bit longer but after about a minute I decided that this wasn’t the best way to go so I cut his head off.
I had to euthanize a blue ram with a big tumor on his head. I cut his head off as well but I should have smashed him with a brick or something because I’m not sure how long brain activity continues after the head is removed.