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OCCFan023

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yea Ill make a run out to my lfs to buy some more water, and do a water change and try and remove the red stuff. I will also cut back on the light now that I can keep a watch on it now thats SCHOOLS OUT (sorry just had to say it lol). Thanks for the help ares
 

OCCFan023

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yea I came home one day and they were covered in ich, and despite a hastily made qt tank I wasnt able to save them. So now im trying to rid my tank of the ich so I can in the future try again.

Im gonan just do biweekly water chnages until I can get fish then resume with weekly water changes.

When the time does come, Im not sure if Ill go with clowns again, but Ive got some time to think about that.
 

OCCFan023

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Update **6/22**

Well today I went to petsmart to buy some food for my dog, and while I was their I could resist looking at the fish stuff (who could lol). Anyway I began looking at the big tanks and then saw some 20's. I began contemplating if I should buy them to upgrade my salt tank to a little bit bigger (for some reason the 20's looked so much bigger so I thought what the hell).

They had 20 gallon highs and longs. The highs came with a light that made it about 30 dollars more, so I asked if I could get the high without the light and it wasnt an option, so I got the 20 long. Im not complaining because I really like the look of the 20 long compared to the 20 high. So I broke down and bought the 20 gallon long and a small powerhead for the middle of it to go with the two I have already.

What I was wondering is a 20 long a bad idea for salt tanks? I could return the 20 and get a 20 high somewhere else, but if I return it I think i will end up not getting the high. So is the 20 long going to work.

Are their advantages of having the 20 compared to my 15 gallon right now. I know its only 5 gallons but the 20 looks alot bigger to me, and I feel it will help on evaporation and paramters maybe or am I completly wrong?

I already have all the stuff I need for the tank, 100 watt heater, 3 power heads (2 for the sides and one for the middle to compensate for the added length)

So all in all what I am asking is, will the 20 benefit me for added evaporation help, and params. Im not going to touch the tank until I know the 20 long is useable in the salt world (I dont know why it would hurt, but just wanna make sure.) Thanks in advance.

o yea on one last note, if it is ok to use the 20, Im hoping my light fits on the 20, I really dont feel like buying new mounting legs lol. *BOUNCINGS
 

aresgod

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yes a 20 gallon long is better for SW than a 20 high, more surface area= greater gas exchange ect... and though it is only 5 gallons you are increasing your water capacity by 33% which will make this a much more stable system. plus with a 20 long you can fit alot more stuff in there. thats why I have a 40 long instead of a 40 high.
 

OCCFan023

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thats great news to hear the long will be better. Now that I know that I just gotta tear down the 15 and switch everything into the 20.

With the LR I will have to take it all out so I can get all the clean up crew out, as well as the sand so I can move it out. When I take all the equipment out I will then begin to move the cleaners into a small cup to stay in while I move everything. But the LR once I take it out what should I do with it, put it in a tub of water or is their an easier way?
 

1979camaro

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tub of water is fine. i would empty the tank into 5g buckets and put the LR in those buckets with the fish...if its only going to be an hour or so you probably don't even need to worry about keeping the LR wet.
 

OCCFan023

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yea I ended up emptying some tank water into a 5 gallon bucket, and all of the live rock fit just right. I put a little water in a 5 gallon tank and put all my snails and crabs in their. I am currently moving the sand and mixing some salt water (for the first time lol)

Im gonna grab some dinner while my water mixes and test its salinity when I gewt back. Il keep updates comming.
 

OCCFan023

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yea its starting too loose some if its "biggness" with the sand and such, but I really needed a new tank. The 16 was a used tank with alot of scrathes and crap, and when I moved it the bottom black brace like broke off, so the switch was not only functional for fish and such but astheticlly (sp?)
 

OCCFan023

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o yea before I forget, my light doesnt fit the new added leangth of the tank.

The tank is 30 inches and the light is 24 inches and about overall 27 inches with the mounting legs. http://www.bigalsonline.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=23927&category_id=2923&pcid1=1843, these are the legs I am currently using, and cant really afford a new light, so does anyone know of wheir I can get mounting legs that will help me out in this situation?

*and secondly does temperature effect live rock?
 

OCCFan023

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well the move is complete. the water is clearing up from the sand movement but its comming along. I rearanged my rock and put my new powerhead in the middle of the tank next to my heater. Im gonna go to my lfs tommorow to get more water, a thermometer, and a nice black backgorund because my old one was too small to fit on this tank.

I may get one or two things for my cleaners (like new cleaners, but maybe not) while im their, because some of my scarlet reef hermits have died because of possible competition for shells, so I need somehting for their places.

Im going ot check my params tommorow after everything settles to make sure everythings in line. I shouldnt expect any cycle problems right, I moved all of my sand, and live rock into the new tank, and as well as some old tank water, should I prepare for another cycle?

I cant find a way to aquascape this tank with my current live rock, i worked nicely in the shorter 16 but now its sord of spread out and I dont find it appealing, so I may break down and buy some new live rock tommorow to give the tank some height instead of just length.

Thats about it for today, now all I have to do is find a way to get this light to work, I may use superglue to glue the legs on the sides of the light and have them sit on the front and back of the tank instead of the sides, or buy some sturdy platic or material and superglue it to the leg and get it to reach some way, but Ill deal with that later aswell.
 

OCCFan023

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well I made a run out to the lfs to get some water, and a thermometer (because I always gorget them when I buy a tank.

I was going to get the thermometer type wher you stick it on the outside of the tank, but I decided to get a inside the tank type so I can move it if I ever have to for some reason. I began thinking ia this ok, will it become covered in algea.
http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/15/56/11/12/0015561112017_215X215.jpg
This is the type I bought, will this be a problem? I dont see why it owuld but I guess Ill ask anyway.

I also got a new peice of live rock, it really looks good in the tank, gives the right side of the tank a higher look (couldnt think of better wording) so instead of a straight wall of rock it goes low to high, so I like it alot, so now i have a total of 15 pounds of rock so Im happy. Also when I got it home, it looks like a muscle of somesort was in a hole in the rock, so Ill wait and see how he is.

I also couldnt resist getting the one thing that I basiclly started this tank for, a skunk cleaner shrimp. I wont be adding fish for a little bit so I decided I would put him in now, I couldnt resist.

Right now my tanks salinity is a little low. Its at about 1.023 will this be ok for the skunk. When I mixed the salt I had it at 1.024 perfectly, but I didnt account for the temperature difference so it dropped. Im planning on just waiting for evaporation to add salt water to get it up a bit, but if its a problem Ill correct it now, should this be a problem?

Ill post some pictures of the new rocklayout and occupant when I get a chance.
 

OCCFan023

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now that my light doesnt really fit all too well (I did get it to stay with the help of retrofitted curtain rod) but I dont like the way its lookin so Im looking aorund for a new light.

I decided to check out aquatrades because their stuff is so cheap.

http://www.aquatraders.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=10&strVarSel=98&strCompare=

Is this a quality light? It has more than enough watts for me to start with some corals and looks like a good light.

I remember Camaro you were talking about purchasing something from this site, did you ever buy it? and if so were you happy?
 

1979camaro

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i was looking at some MH lights from them but i never bought...decided to wait until after the move. as far as the light itself its a good price for what you get and it will allow you to grow a wide variety of corals in your 20l